Stopped by my LGS today to see if it was still a zoo, it was. They sell range brass and every once in a while I can score some 30 carbine at a good price. They didn't have any carbine but they did have 40 cal brass for $99.99 per 1000. I have pounds of the stuff and can't give it a way. Talking to guys selling brass at the gun-shows they sell their 40 cal brass for scrap.