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Question for you Atheists...

Discussion in 'Religious Issues' started by Tilley, Jun 21, 2011.

  1. Tilley

    Tilley Man of Steel

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    I'm sure most of you have experienced first hand the death of a close loved one. Throw away for a moment, your beliefs in science, or your lack of belief in God...

    Do you really believe that death is the final act of a human life? All of what comprises of that special person, their joy and laughter, their triumphs and emotions, all the things that are NOT tangible in a physical way...if that is all erased upon the moment of death?

    Norske started to express the fact that even as a staunch atheist, even he could tell a physical/spiritual difference and loss to a person at the moment of death.

    I have seen it many times. What was once a life becomes a lifeless shell, a doll tossed away, empty. And yet I can still feel the presence of that person at certain times and without explanation.

    "For love knows not its own depth, until the hour of separation..." Kahlil Gibran.



    Do you really believe it's the end?
     

  2. Uzzirider

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    I'm fine with it too. Enjoyment and fulfillment of the current life does not come from mental ************ (word that means "to stimulate oneself" wow, puritanical word filters sure are touchy.) about the potential afterlife.
     
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  3. Yes, I fully accept that I will never be reunited with those that pass away. They live on in memories and the legacies that they created.
     
  4. Japle

    Japle John, Viera, Fl

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    Yep. I watched both my parents die. When their brains died, their personalities vanished. The only things left were our memories of them and the physical things they’d left behind.

    No question there’s a physical difference. The person has died, after all.
    There’s an emotional loss, obviously, and that may feel like something spiritual to some people.
     
  5. ksg0245

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    Yes, it's really the end. That doesn't mean the memory is erased.
     
  6. Billua

    Billua Lake Mead Explr

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  7. A lot of people are afraid of death and use religion to hide from it. As a child I was afraid of death but I outgrew it. Unfortunately, for them, some people never do. As Christopher Hitchens said, “It is wrong to tell children and gullible adults that the dead walk”. Until I see evidence to the contrary, I will continue to believe that death is final.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlBiLNN1NhQ
     
  8. Tilley

    Tilley Man of Steel

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    Come on man, George Carlin is a ****** bag comedian (and I use the word comedian graciously) doing a comedy skit. He's about as funny as Galagher, and about as profound as Pee Wee Herman.

    This is a serious question. Do you believe you cease to exist at the moment of death.
     
  9. Tilley

    Tilley Man of Steel

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    Bro, even animals know when their masters die, and they mourn. They is something more there than the cessation of life.
     
  10. AlexHassin

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    That a dog can sense if something is dead or alive does not surprise me at all. Humans can to an extent to, sometimes you just walk up to a sean and you know they are a goner. We might even smell different to the dog, you know that dead smell. Our hearts stop and our brains die, I don’t see anything else happening.
     
  11. Davegrave

    Davegrave Dapper Dan

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    Yes sir. It's all over. That feeling you feel is your own memories and emotions. They are powerful and wonderful.
     
  12. bleedingshrimp

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    Keep holding out for that ice cream you were promised...I'm gonna enjoy the hell out of this steak in the meanwhile.
     
  13. nmk

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    The part in bold is confusing. And to answer your question...of course.
     
  14. Tilley

    Tilley Man of Steel

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    So you believe that the same laws of physics applies to energy that cannot be measured?

    Do you also believe that matter can be created?

    Can gold be created from lead?