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  1. IhRedrider

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    This question is for Believers. Not interested in what the atheists have to say on this particular issue.

    When you answer this question please explain why you believe what you say. Thanks

    What day do you consider is the Sabbath and why?

    If you wish to share, please explain how you Honor the Sabbath.
     

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  2. NMG26

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    Sabbath? What kind of word is that anyways? I'm a believer, but I have no Sabbath. Why? Sounds like a Jewish thing. I'm not Jewish.
     
  3. Tilley

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    Yeah, it's one of those pesky "10 Commandments" thing...







    I observe it on Sunday. I don't know if God is that particular on Saturday or Sunday as long as you set aside a day to rest and spend with loved ones and worship.

    I work every other Saturday and Sunday, so sometimes my "Sabbath" may not even fall there.

    Everyday should be a day of worship.:supergrin:
     
  4. Kingarthurhk

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    I believe in the Severnth Day Sabbath because of scripture:

    Genesis 2:1-2, "<sup>1</sup> Thus the heavens and the earth were completed in all their vast array.
    <sup id="en-NIV-33" class="versenum">2</sup> By the seventh day God had finished the work he had been doing; so on the seventh day he rested from all his work. <sup id="en-NIV-34" class="versenum">3</sup> Then God blessed the seventh day and made it holy, because on it he rested from all the work of creating that he had done."

    The Sabbath was established at creation as the sign of God's creative power. He blessed it and made it holy.

    Before God descended upon Sinai and wrote the 10 commandments with his own hand as we see in:

    Exodus 31:18, "When the LORD finished speaking to Moses on Mount Sinai, he gave him the two tablets of the Testimony, the tablets of stone inscribed by the finger of God."

    The examples of God counseling to remember His Holy Day can be seen as follows:


    Exodus 5:4-5, “<sup>4 </sup>Then the king of Egypt said to them, “Mosesand Aaron, why do you take the people from their work? Get back to yourlabor.” <sup>5 </sup>And Pharaoh said, “Look, the people of the land aremany now, and you make them restfrom their labor!”<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:eek:ffice" /><o:p></o:p>

    The term “rest” used by Pharaoh in theoriginal language is built on the word Sabbath. This was well before Sinai, and evidence of the 4<sup>th</sup>Commandment observance.<o:p></o:p>

    Exodus 16:4-5, “<sup>4</sup>Then the LORD said to Moses, “I will raindown bread from heaven for you. The people are to go out each day and gatherenough for that day. In this way I will test them and see whether they willfollow my instructions. <sup>5</sup> On the sixth day they are to prepare whatthey bring in, and that is to be twice as much as they gather on the other days

    Exodus 16:21-30, “<sup>21</sup>Eachmorning everyone gathered as much as they needed, and when the sun grew hot, itmelted away. <sup>22</sup> On the sixth day, they gathered twice as much—twoomers<sup>[</sup><sup>b</sup><sup>]</sup> for each person—and theleaders of the community came and reported this to Moses. <sup>23</sup> He saidto them, “This is what the LORD commanded: ‘Tomorrow is to be a day of sabbathrest, a holy sabbath to the LORD. So bake what you want to bake and boil whatyou want to boil. Save whatever is left and keep it until morning.’” <o:p></o:p>

    <sup>24</sup> So they saved it untilmorning, as Moses commanded, and it did not stink or get maggots in it. <sup>25</sup>“Eat it today,” Moses said, “because today is a sabbath to the LORD. You willnot find any of it on the ground today. <sup>26</sup> Six days you are togather it, but on the seventh day, the Sabbath, there will not be any <o:p></o:p>

    <sup>27</sup> Nevertheless, some ofthe people went out on the seventh day to gather it, but they found none. <sup>28</sup>Then the LORD said to Moses, “How long will you<sup>[</sup><sup>c</sup><sup>]</sup> refuse to keep my commands andmy instructions? <sup>29</sup> Bear in mind that the LORD has given you theSabbath; that is why on the sixth day he gives you bread for two days. Everyoneis to stay where they are on the seventh day; no one is to go out.” <sup>30</sup>So the people rested on the seventh day

    Here we have more evidence of the 4<sup>th</sup> Commandment well beforeSinai.

    Spoken by God Himself as he descended on mount Sinai, and written by His very finger we find the 4th Commandment:

    Exodus 20:8-11,"
    <sup>8</sup>“Remember the Sabbath day by keeping it holy. <sup>9</sup> Six days you shalllabor and do all your work, <sup>10</sup> but the seventh day is a sabbath tothe LORD your God. On it you shall not do any work, neither you, nor your sonor daughter, nor your male or female servant, nor your animals, nor anyforeigner residing in your towns. <sup>11</sup> For in six days the LORD madethe heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, but he rested onthe seventh day. Therefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy."

    It is the only one of the 10 that God clearly said to REMEMBER. Further, He refers back to Genesis 2, where he made the Seventh Day Holy after creation.

    What did Jesus have to say about the Sabbath?

    Mark 2:23-27, "<sup>23</sup> One Sabbath Jesus was going through the grainfields, and as his disciples walked along, they began to pick some heads of grain. <sup id="en-NIV-24285" class="versenum">24</sup> The Pharisees said to him, “Look, why are they doing what is unlawful on the Sabbath?”

    <sup id="en-NIV-24286" class="versenum">25</sup> He answered, “Have you never read what David did when he and his companions were hungry and in need?<sup id="en-NIV-24287" class="versenum">26</sup> In the days of Abiathar the high priest, he entered the house of God and ate the consecrated bread, which is lawful only for priests to eat. And he also gave some to his companions.” <sup id="en-NIV-24288" class="versenum">27</sup> Then he said to them, “The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath.<sup id="en-NIV-24289" class="versenum">28</sup> So the Son of Man is Lord even of the Sabbath

    Here we have learned two important things. The Sabbath was made for man, not just Jews. Another, that Jesus is the Lord of the Sabbath. Thus, it is the Lord's Day.

    Morever, there were no Jews when God made the 7th Day Holy at creation.

    Jesus taught us how to keep it Holy:

    Matthew 12:1-13, "<sup>1</sup> At that time Jesus went through the grainfields on the Sabbath. His disciples were hungry and began to pick some heads of grain and eat them. <sup id="en-NIV-23492" class="versenum">2</sup> When the Pharisees saw this, they said to him, “Look! Your disciples are doing what is unlawful on the Sabbath.”

    <sup id="en-NIV-23493" class="versenum">3</sup> He answered, “Haven’t you read what David did when he and his companions were hungry? <sup id="en-NIV-23494" class="versenum">4</sup> He entered the house of God, and he and his companions ate the consecrated bread—which was not lawful for them to do, but only for the priests. <sup id="en-NIV-23495" class="versenum">5</sup> Or haven’t you read in the Law that the priests on Sabbath duty in the temple desecrate the Sabbath and yet are innocent? <sup id="en-NIV-23496" class="versenum">6</sup> I tell you that something greater than the temple is here. <sup id="en-NIV-23497" class="versenum">7</sup> If you had known what these words mean, ‘I desire mercy, not sacrifice,’<sup class="footnote" value='[a]'>[a]</sup> you would not have condemned the innocent. <sup id="en-NIV-23498" class="versenum">8</sup> For the Son of Man is Lord of the Sabbath
    <sup id="en-NIV-23499" class="versenum">9</sup> Going on from that place, he went into their synagogue, <sup id="en-NIV-23500" class="versenum">10</sup> and a man with a shriveled hand was there. Looking for a reason to bring charges against Jesus, they asked him, “Is it lawful to heal on the Sabbath?”
    <sup id="en-NIV-23501" class="versenum">11</sup> He said to them, “If any of you has a sheep and it falls into a pit on the Sabbath, will you not take hold of it and lift it out?<sup id="en-NIV-23502" class="versenum">12</sup> How much more valuable is a person than a sheep! Therefore it is lawful to do good on the Sabbath.” <sup id="en-NIV-23503" class="versenum">13</sup> Then he said to the man, “Stretch out your hand.” So he stretched it out and it was completely restored, just as sound as the other. <sup id="en-NIV-23504" class="versenum">14</sup> But the Pharisees went out and plotted how they might kill Jesus."

    Luke 6:6-10, "<sup>6</sup> On another Sabbath he went into the synagogue and was teaching, and a man was there whose right hand was shriveled. <sup id="en-NIV-25154" class="versenum">7</sup> The Pharisees and the teachers of the law were looking for a reason to accuse Jesus, so they watched him closely to see if he would heal on the Sabbath. <sup id="en-NIV-25155" class="versenum">8</sup> But Jesus knew what they were thinking and said to the man with the shriveled hand, “Get up and stand in front of everyone.” So he got up and stood there.

    <sup id="en-NIV-25156" class="versenum">9</sup> Then Jesus said to them, “I ask you, which is lawful on the Sabbath: to do good or to do evil, to save life or to destroy it?” <sup id="en-NIV-25157" class="versenum">10</sup> He looked around at them all, and then said to the man, “Stretch out your hand.” He did so, and his hand was completely restored. <sup id="en-NIV-25158" class="versenum">11</sup> But the Pharisees and the teachers of the law were furious and began to discuss with one another what they might do to Jesus."

    Jesus referred to the end of time and gave this warning regarding the Sabbath:

    Matthew 24:20, "<sup>20</sup> Pray that your flight will not take place in winter or on the Sabbath. <sup id="en-NIV-23979" class="versenum">21</sup> For then there will be great distress, unequaled from the beginning of the world until now—and never to be equaled again."

    Further, Jesus kept the Sabbath regularly:
    Luke 4:16-17, "<sup>16</sup> He went to Nazareth, where he had been brought up, and on the Sabbath day he went into the synagogue, as was his custom. He stood up to read, <sup id="en-NIV-25081" class="versenum">17</sup> and the scroll of the prophet Isaiah was handed to him. Unrolling it, he found the place where it is written"

    The Apostles kept the Sabbath:
    Acts 17:2-4, " As was his custom, Paul went into the synagogue, and on three Sabbath days he reasoned with them from the Scriptures, <sup id="en-NIV-27527" class="versenum">3</sup> explaining and proving that the Messiah had to suffer and rise from the dead. “This Jesus I am proclaiming to you is the Messiah,” he said. <sup id="en-NIV-27528" class="versenum">4</sup> Some of the Jews were persuaded and joined Paul and Silas, as did a large number of God-fearing Greeks and quite a few prominent women."

    Acts 13:42-48, "<sup>42</sup> As Paul and Barnabas were leaving the synagogue, the people invited them to speak further about these things on the next Sabbath. <sup id="en-NIV-27406" class="versenum">43</sup> When the congregation was dismissed, many of the Jews and devout converts to Judaism followed Paul and Barnabas, who talked with them and urged them to continue in the grace of God.

    <sup id="en-NIV-27407" class="versenum">44</sup> On the next Sabbath almost the whole city gathered to hear the word of the Lord. <sup id="en-NIV-27408" class="versenum">45</sup> When the Jews saw the crowds, they were filled with jealousy. They began to contradict what Paul was saying and heaped abuse on him.
    <sup id="en-NIV-27409" class="versenum">46</sup> Then Paul and Barnabas answered them boldly: “We had to speak the word of God to you first. Since you reject it and do not consider yourselves worthy of eternal life, we now turn to the Gentiles. <sup id="en-NIV-27410" class="versenum">47</sup> For this is what the Lord has commanded us:
    “‘I have made you<sup class="footnote" value='[f]'>[f]</sup> a light for the Gentiles,
    that you<sup class="footnote" value='[g]'>[g]</sup> may bring salvation to the ends of the earth.’<sup class="footnote" value='[h]'>[h]</sup>” <sup id="en-NIV-27411" class="versenum">48</sup> When the Gentiles heard this, they were glad and honored the word of the Lord; and all who were appointed for eternal life believed."

    Here we Gentile converts keeping the Sabbath.

    The Book of Acts alone gives a record of his holding eighty-four meetings upon that day. See Acts 13:14,44; 16:13; 17:2; 18:4,11.

    God tells us that when the earth is made new again, everyone will worship Him on the Sabbath.

    Isaiah 66:22-23, "<sup>22</sup> “As the new heavens and the new earth that I make will endure before me,” declares the LORD, “so will your name and descendants endure. <sup id="en-NIV-18946" class="versenum">23</sup> From one New Moon to another and from one Sabbath to another, all mankind will come and bow down before me,” says the LORD. "<sup id="en-NIV-18947" class="versenum"></sup>

    As to the weekly cycle:

    The calendar has not been changed so as to confuse the days of the week. We can be positive that our seventh day is the same day Jesus observed when He was here. Pope Gregory XIII did make a calendar change in 1582, but it did not interfere with the weekly cycle. Our present Gregorian calendar was named after him when he made that small change in 1582.

    What did Pope Gregory do to the calendar? Before 1582 the Julian calendar had been in effect, instituted by Julius Ceasar about 46 B.C. and named after him. But the Julian calendar had calculated the length of the year as 365 1/4 days, and the year is actually eleven minutes less than 365 1/4 days. Those eleven minutes accumulated, and by 1582 the numbering of the calendar was ten days out of harmony with the solar system. Gregory simply dropped those ten days out of the numbering of the calendar. It was Thursday, October 4, 1582, and the next day, Friday, should have been October 5. But Gregory made it October 15 instead, dropping exactly ten days to bring the calendar back into harmony with the heavenly bodies.

    Were the days of the week confused? No. Friday still followed Thursday, and Saturday still followed Friday. The same seventh day remained, and the weekly cycle was not disturbed in the least. When we keep the seventh day on Saturday, we are observing the same day Jesus kept, and He did it every week according to
    Luke 4:16.


    So, the Seventh Day is still the Sabbath.


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  5. Kingarthurhk

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    The Sabbath was established by God at creation 2,300 years before there was such thing as a "Jew".
     
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    The Law given by Moses, who received it from God at Mt. Sinai, governed every aspect of the Hebrew life. Religious, social, cultural, political, and judicial decisions were all made based upon the Law. Part of this covenant was a command to set aside the last day of the week in remembrance of God&#8217;s mercy in delivering the Hebrews from Egyptian bondage. This day was called the Sabbath. The word sabbath means &#8220;to desist,&#8221; &#8220;cease,&#8221; or &#8220;rest.&#8221; On the Sabbath day, followers were to rest and not work.

    I define the Sabbath the way it is defined in the Old Testament: the last day of the week; a day that was once recognized by a specific people at a specific time for a specific purpose.
     
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    Very good.

    Those in the dogmatic following of religion will never know the true freedom of the "believer". I think this thread should be called "Question for followers".

    We all follow something, for a time, and the believer is free to grow out of the following, and allow his faith to change as he grows.

    Following the heart is stifled by doctrine that does not allow freedom. Religion is what keeps mankind from listening to, and following the voice of God.
     
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    So it took God 2,300 years to have someone write His desire down?

    Reasonably you can see that any charismatic, could have become the voice for God. Your "Word of God" is part of an archaic religion. That archaic religion has changed the world, but it has it's flaws. That is why Jesus has been become the new "Word of God". The whole Jesus as, the "sacrifice for mankind", is based on the archaic Jewish religion.

    You don't need a book to hear God.
    People intuitively know this and that is why they leave the church. Praise God!
     
  9. Kingarthurhk

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    No. It was known before Sinai:

    Exodus 5:4-5, “<sup>4 </sup>Then the king of Egypt said to them, “Mosesand Aaron, why do you take the people from their work? Get back to yourlabor.” <sup>5 </sup>And Pharaoh said, “Look, the people of the land aremany now, and you make them restfrom their labor!”<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:eek:ffice" /><o:p></o:p>

    The term “rest” used by Pharaoh in theoriginal language is built on the word Sabbath. This was well before Sinai, and evidence of the 4<sup>th</sup>Commandment observance.<o:p></o:p>


    Exodus 16:4-5, “<sup>4</sup>Then the LORD said to Moses, “I will raindown bread from heaven for you. The people are to go out each day and gatherenough for that day. In this way I will test them and see whether they willfollow my instructions. <sup>5</sup> On the sixth day they are to prepare whatthey bring in, and that is to be twice as much as they gather on the other days

    Exodus 16:21-30, “<sup>21</sup>Eachmorning everyone gathered as much as they needed, and when the sun grew hot, itmelted away. <sup>22</sup> On the sixth day, they gathered twice as much—twoomers<sup>[</sup><sup>b</sup><sup>]</sup> for each person—and theleaders of the community came and reported this to Moses. <sup>23</sup> He saidto them, “This is what the LORD commanded: ‘Tomorrow is to be a day of sabbathrest, a holy sabbath to the LORD. So bake what you want to bake and boil whatyou want to boil. Save whatever is left and keep it until morning.’” <o:p></o:p>

    <sup>24</sup> So they saved it untilmorning, as Moses commanded, and it did not stink or get maggots in it. <sup>25</sup>“Eat it today,” Moses said, “because today is a sabbath to the LORD. You willnot find any of it on the ground today. <sup>26</sup> Six days you are togather it, but on the seventh day, the Sabbath, there will not be any <o:p></o:p>

    <sup>27</sup> Nevertheless, some ofthe people went out on the seventh day to gather it, but they found none. <sup>28</sup>Then the LORD said to Moses, “How long will you<sup>[</sup><sup>c</sup><sup>]</sup> refuse to keep my commands andmy instructions? <sup>29</sup> Bear in mind that the LORD has given you theSabbath; that is why on the sixth day he gives you bread for two days. Everyoneis to stay where they are on the seventh day; no one is to go out.” <sup>30</sup>So the people rested on the seventh day

    Here we have more evidence of the 4<sup>th</sup> Commandment well beforeSinai.
     
  10. IhRedrider

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    Tilley,
    You answered, Thanks for sharing, and now I have a few more questions that I would like to hear your answers to. They will be in red in your statement below.





    Always remember that if you follow God and not man, you are an honorable man and a brother to other honorable men. Our task is not to agree with what man says, but to do what God says.
     
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    The voice of elitism speaks.
    The voice that will always, and only, separate mankind.

    What you forget is that man wrote the book you are talking about.

    Honorable men follow God without a book of doctrine all the time, every day.........but you must separate.
     
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    The 5 books of Moses should all confirm the same thing. Written in the same culture, time, and religion. I don't see how you can call that proof of anything other then, "the Jewish religion teaches this".

    God's commandments are intuitively known, and in the heart of mankind. "The law kills; the spirit gives life".
     
  13. Kingarthurhk

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    Isaiah 8:19-20, "<sup class="versenum">19 </sup>When someone tells you to consult <sup class="crossreference" value='(AX)'></sup> mediums and spiritists, <sup class="crossreference" value='(AY)'></sup> who whisper and mutter, <sup class="crossreference" value='(AZ)'></sup> should not a people inquire <sup class="crossreference" value='(BA)'></sup> of their God? Why consult the dead on behalf of the living? <sup class="versenum">20 </sup>Consult God’s instruction <sup class="crossreference" value='(BB)'></sup> and the testimony of warning. <sup class="crossreference" value='(BC)'></sup> If anyone does not speak according to this word, they have no light <sup class="crossreference" value='(BD)'></sup> of dawn."

    Galatians 6:1-10, " <sup> </sup>I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called <sup class="crossreference" value='(M)'></sup> you to live in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel <sup class="crossreference" value='(N)'></sup> — <sup class="versenum">7 </sup>which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion <sup class="crossreference" value='(O)'></sup> and are trying to pervert <sup class="crossreference" value='(P)'></sup> the gospel of Christ. <sup class="versenum">8 </sup>But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, <sup class="crossreference" value='(Q)'></sup> let them be under God’s curse! <sup class="crossreference" value='(R)'></sup> <sup class="versenum">9 </sup>As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, <sup class="crossreference" value='(S)'></sup> let them be under God’s curse!
    <sup class="versenum">10 </sup>Am I now trying to win the approval of human beings, or of God? Or am I trying to please people? <sup class="crossreference" value='(T)'></sup> If I were still trying to please people, I would not be a servant of Christ."

    Hebrews 4:1-12, "Therefore, since the promise of entering his rest still stands, let us be careful that none of you be found to have fallen short of it. <sup class="crossreference" value='(A)'></sup> <sup class="versenum">2 </sup>For we also have had the good news proclaimed to us, just as they did; but the message they heard was of no value to them, because they did not share the faith of those who obeyed.<sup class="footnote" value='[a]'>[a]</sup> <sup class="crossreference" value='(B)'></sup> <sup class="versenum">3 </sup>Now we who have believed enter that rest, just as God has said,
    “So I declared on oath in my anger,
    ‘They shall never enter my rest.’”<sup class="footnote" value='[b]'>[b]</sup> <sup class="crossreference" value='(C)'></sup>

    And yet his works have been finished since the creation of the world. <sup class="versenum">4 </sup>For somewhere he has spoken about the seventh day in these words: “On the seventh day God rested from all his works.”<sup class="footnote" value='[c]'>[c]</sup> <sup class="crossreference" value='(D)'></sup> <sup class="versenum">5 </sup>And again in the passage above he says, “They shall never enter my rest.” <sup class="crossreference" value='(E)'></sup>

    <sup class="versenum">6 </sup>Therefore since it still remains for some to enter that rest, and since those who formerly had the good news proclaimed to them did not go in because of their disobedience, <sup class="crossreference" value='(F)'></sup> <sup class="versenum">7 </sup>God again set a certain day, calling it “Today.” This he did when a long time later he spoke through David, as in the passage already quoted:
    “Today, if you hear his voice,
    do not harden your hearts.”<sup class="footnote" value='[d]'>[d]</sup> <sup class="crossreference" value='(G)'></sup>


    <sup class="versenum">8 </sup>For if Joshua had given them rest, <sup class="crossreference" value='(H)'></sup> God would not have spoken <sup class="crossreference" value='(I)'></sup> later about another day. <sup class="versenum">9 </sup>There remains, then, a Sabbath-rest for the people of God; <sup class="versenum">10 </sup>for anyone who enters God’s rest also rests from their works,<sup class="footnote" value='[e]'>[e]</sup> <sup class="crossreference" value='(J)'></sup> just as God did from his. <sup class="crossreference" value='(K)'></sup> <sup class="versenum">11 </sup>Let us, therefore, make every effort to enter that rest, so that no one will perish by following their example of disobedience. <sup class="crossreference" value='(L)'></sup>

    <sup class="versenum">12 </sup>For the word of God <sup class="crossreference" value='(M)'></sup> is alive <sup class="crossreference" value='(N)'></sup> and active. <sup class="crossreference" value='(O)'></sup> Sharper than any double-edged sword, <sup class="crossreference" value='(P)'></sup> it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart. <sup class="crossreference" value='(Q)'></sup> <sup class="versenum">13 </sup>Nothing in all creation is hidden from God’s sight. <sup class="crossreference" value='(R)'></sup> Everything is uncovered and laid bare before the eyes of him to whom we must give account."
     
  14. Brasso

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    Perhaps you should have prefaced this question for those who believe in the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.

    Cause this guy is not on the same page as you.
     
  15. Kingarthurhk

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    Well, details matter. For instance, these children think they are playing with baby kittens.

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  16. Tilley

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    Christ did his Father's work, even on the Sabbath, did he not?
     
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    He sure did. He did not do this for Himself, but for others.

    Isaiah 58:5 Is it such a fast that I have chosen? a day for a man to afflict his soul? is it to bow down his head as a bulrush, and to spread sackcloth and ashes under him? wilt thou call this a fast, and an acceptable day to the LORD?
    58:6 Is not this the fast that I have chosen? to loose the bands of wickedness, to undo the heavy burdens, and to let the oppressed go free, and that ye break every yoke?
    58:7 Is it not to deal thy bread to the hungry, and that thou bring the poor that are cast out to thy house? when thou seest the naked, that thou cover him; and that thou hide not thyself from thine own flesh?
    58:8 Then shall thy light break forth as the morning, and thine health shall spring forth speedily: and thy righteousness shall go before thee; the glory of the LORD shall be thy rereward.
    58:9 Then shalt thou call, and the LORD shall answer; thou shalt cry, and he shall say, Here I am. If thou take away from the midst of thee the yoke, the putting forth of the finger, and speaking vanity;
    58:10 And if thou draw out thy soul to the hungry, and satisfy the afflicted soul; then shall thy light rise in obscurity, and thy darkness be as the noonday:
    58:11 And the LORD shall guide thee continually, and satisfy thy soul in drought, and make fat thy bones: and thou shalt be like a watered garden, and like a spring of water, whose waters fail not.
    58:12 And they that shall be of thee shall build the old waste places: thou shalt raise up the foundations of many generations; and thou shalt be called, The repairer of the breach, The restorer of paths to dwell in.
    58:13 If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, from doing thy pleasure on my holy day; and call the sabbath a delight, the holy of the LORD, honourable; and shalt honour him, not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking thine own words:
    58:14 Then shalt thou delight thyself in the LORD; and I will cause thee to ride upon the high places of the earth, and feed thee with the heritage of Jacob thy father: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken it.
     
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    What I do for a living I do for others, and a lot of times I put myself at risk.
     
  19. Vic Hays

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    Good for you. I am glad you are a compassionate individual.

    Jesus healed during the week as well as the Sabbath. That did not make the Sabbath less holy or less set aside as a special day by God.