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Putting ethernet in a house

Discussion in 'The Okie Corral' started by SC Tiger, May 25, 2012.

  1. SC Tiger

    SC Tiger Big, educated kitty cat!

    Aug 27, 2011
    South Carolina
    I have a house built around 1980. Currently my internet is through a standard router with wireless. I am considering adding some jacks in the dining room (where I typically use the computer) and behind the TV to connect the dish network to broadband (supposedly that will let me access more cool features). How difficult is this to do? What is the best and simplest solution?

    The stolen WiFi thread got me thinking about this.
  2. Do you have crawlspace above your ceiling? If not, then you can get some Panduit and run it externally on the walls.

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  3. 686Owner

    686Owner NRA Life Member

    Mar 10, 2007
    It depends on your house, but it likely will not be that simple unless you are extremely lucky. Just like wiring in a new plug in a finished house is not easy.
  4. SC Tiger

    SC Tiger Big, educated kitty cat!

    Aug 27, 2011
    South Carolina
    I have crawlspace above and below the ceiling. I've put in phone jacks before but mounted them to the baseboard right above the floor. I don't mind doing that in this situation. My concern is do I need a "server" and can I splice the ethernet cable into a jack like a phone jack.

    I'm more concerned with the hardware - can an ethernet cable be cut and wired into a jack like a phone cable? Will I need a server of some sort?
  5. GD2J

    GD2J GoDirectly2Jail

    Feb 25, 2006
    The Old Dominion
    Yes, cut and wired into an ethernet jack exactly in the same manner as a phone jack. The 'server' you need is an ethernet switch. Internet comes into your router and via ethernet cablefrom your router to a switch, which has many jacks on it. Plug multiple ethernet cables into those jacks and the other ends to whatever rooms you want to be wired.
  6. SC Tiger

    SC Tiger Big, educated kitty cat!

    Aug 27, 2011
    South Carolina
    Thanks. My router has available ports on it. Would I still need the switch or could I connect straight to them?
  7. JJohnson

    JJohnson Call me Jeff

    Mar 3, 2002
    Des Moines, Iowa
    If you have available ports, you can use the same router. If you eventually run out of ports, upgrade to a switch. They are cheap today.
  8. Viper16


    Apr 2, 2007
    you can connect straight to the router as long as you have enough ports available on it. A switch is like a power plug goes into the router and the switch can take as many open ethernet cables it can hold and fully manage switching with.
  9. Dennis in MA

    Dennis in MA Get off my lawn

    Aug 16, 2001
    Taunton, MA
    Is your AO thickly settled??? How close is your house to the road? Is stealing your wifi really an issue?

    I'd answer those before I start drilling holes in my drywall. OTOH, I live far from any other houses. Someone would have to park on my front porch to pick up my internet.
  10. Viper16


    Apr 2, 2007
    if you use MAC addressing on your wifi router...theft of your wifi should not be an issue...heck even a really tight secured password to access the router should not be an issue.

  11. aircarver

    aircarver Ride Continues Silver Member

    As noted, it varies.

    Run overhead from the attic, or underneath from the basement/crawlspace.

    Drill into the wall header, to get inside the wall. Use a 'fish' to get the wires where they're going.....

    If the wall has firebreaks in it, they're a deal breaker... You can't get there.

    Going from the second floor to the first is a pain, but can be done, You need to remove (carefully so you can put it back...) enough plasterboard to get a drill inside the wall so you can drill all the way through thr wall headers of both floors... Need an 18" long drill.

    Home Depot, or Lowes has all the electrical boxes and ethernet termination jacks you need.

    Good luck !
    The extra speed is very useful when streaming a lot of video around on your internal net.

    Keep the wireless for people browsing with laptops.
  12. SC Tiger

    SC Tiger Big, educated kitty cat!

    Aug 27, 2011
    South Carolina
    I'm not too worried about theft but would like to be able to connect using a cable instead of WiFi. The Dish Network box cannot connect via WiFi. I was actually also thinking about putting the router in the living room pretty much in the middle of the house) and running an ethernet cable back to the modem.

    Do modern routers have better range than one purchased 5-6 years ago or is it model-dependent? Mine is a linksys.
  13. aircarver

    aircarver Ride Continues Silver Member

    Once you have wired ethernet, the number of devices on it grows like Topsy ..... :rofl:

    (When you run outta ports, then you need a switch...)

  14. aircarver

    aircarver Ride Continues Silver Member

    I believe that they are all designed to keep the wireless footprint to the size of a 'standard house'

  15. OctoberRust

    OctoberRust Anti-Federalist

    Jun 15, 2011

    I haven't read the stolen wifi thread yet, but if you encrypt your wifi properly, and take the SSID off, you should be safe. Not saying it CAN'T be hacked into, but there will be many other wifi networks people will take.
  16. jhall


    Apr 16, 2002

    Those guys know how to route cables. Somewhere in there is a thread with some pretty good advice on running cables. Been putting a supply list together myself to do a pretty major install in my house.

    The best tip I read was to get two boxes of cable so you can pull two lines at once through the wall instead of doing it one at a time. And your going to want two jacks at every location you put in.
  17. Halojumper


    Mar 18, 2005
    Aurora, CO
    I don't know if it's the same for houses as businesses, but you might need plenum rated cable to go overhead.
  18. JimmyN


    Sep 29, 2006
    Only if it's a return air space. If it uses ducting for return air back to the unit you don't need plenum rated cable as the access space is not a plenum, whether it's business or residential.

    If you run the cable inside the return air/supply ducts or the access space is used for return air, then in that case you'd need rated cable.


    Feb 21, 2002
    This is the easiest tool I have found to crip RJ45's on ethernet cable.

    The ez crimp tool is available from many places just google ezcrimp. The ezcrimp requires EZRJ45's to make use of the cutoff.

    This tool makes it east to check that the wires are in the proper order (very important to meet full network capacity). BTW Max runs for twisted pair ethernet is 100 meters.
  20. woodasptim


    Feb 7, 2007
    NE Arkansas
    It can't be daisy chained like most residential phone lines. You'll need a run from each jack back to the router. The router will do the job of the dhcp server. As was said before, you only need a switch if you run out of space on the router.

    Honestly, with a good wifi router, hard wiring isn't necessary in most cases. We stream video in multiple rooms at a time using an Apple Airport Extreme.