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Promoted to Corporal!

Discussion in 'Cop Talk' started by GSD17, Oct 23, 2012.

  1. GSD17

    GSD17 Thread Killer

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    First off, I haven't been on GT in forever it seems. This seemed to be the most logical place to brag. :wavey:

    I have intentionally passed this interview up twice now. I finally decided that it was time for me to act.

    I know that Corporal vaires from agency to agency.

    In mine - you are an FTO, the supervisor in the absence of your Sergeant and are a general "leader" of your squad.

    I am on my third and largest agency. I have always been the unofficial FTO of all three of my departments but have never wanted to go for the promotion.

    All agencies are political, I know. My current one seems to be pretty bad. I don't let them affect me for the most part.

    The straw that broke the camel's back here is the FTOs. Even though I had 5 years of experience, when I got picked up, I had to go into an abbreviated FTO. The FTO was horrible (absolutely NO officer safety, retired on duty, waaaaay too many 4th amendment violations going on and generally a stupid person alltogether).

    I passed the first sign up sheet because I felt that I needed more time in the agency before looking for chevrons. I passed it again because I was disgruntled at the time and didn't want to give them the pleasure of having me apply (I was asked alot by people of varying ranks).

    Finally, I lost my S**t when I saw the HANDS DOWN worst member of our squad get promoted. It was a total example of a stupid, worthless, unknowlegable person training new people.

    I applied and nailed it. Now I can give my input and try to break the chain of "blinders on, do the minimum" new guys.

    I've been filling my new shoes for about a week now, am loving it and am hearing good reviews. Wish me luck!
     
  2. Newcop761

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    Congrats on the promotion!

    Train the new guys the right way. Short cuts and laziness lead to hurt cops and bad case law.
     


  3. DaBigBR

    DaBigBR No Infidels!

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    Congratulations! You owe us twenty good ones for not posting for so long, though.
     
  4. Ftttu

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    Congrats! In mine, there is no test, and we do all that you posted. Our corporal stripes just mean 5 years of grade. There are diamonds and stars added later, but that is for more time in grade.
     
  5. collim1

    collim1 Shower Time!

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    Congrats. I have passed on several promotional processes in the last few years waiting on a better administration to come in. Guess I didn't want to be any closer to the poo pile than I had to be.

    Now its looking like I am about to be working for guys that I still consider rookies.

    I dont want to be a shift supervisor, but at the same time I dont want to be working for guys with significantly less time in than me.
     
  6. x_out86

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    Exactly why even when disenchanted, you should apply for the promotion. If they cant choose the most qualified candidate, they have to choose from whats left. Then all it does is screw you and everybody else in the long run.
     
    Last edited: Oct 24, 2012
  7. JBaird22

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    The line of thinking "If not me then who else" is flawed. I found myself in your position 2 years ago and now I am looking at alternatives to get the stripes off my sleeve. Never again will I take a supervisory position beyond FTO.

    But hey, good luck with it!
     
  8. Congrats!



    Posted from my iPhone 4s via Outdoor Hub mobile
     
  9. JC2317

    JC2317

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    Congratulations. FTO is a big responsibility. Sounds like you are ready and able. Good Luck!
     
  10. PinkoCommie

    PinkoCommie Unusual Member

    Congratulations!

    I was promoted to sergeant a few months ago. I expected supervising the officers to be a challenge. That turned out to be the easy part. Insulating them from the BS that goes on at the office so they can do what they do best is the hard part. I'm sure you'll do great for your officers.
     
  11. Hack

    Hack Crazy CO Gold Member

    Congratulations and good luck.

    I work at a rank that would probably be equivalent in grade, but a little different. In the officer part of BOP you don't reach supervisory level until you reach LT GL-9, which means there are no SGTs or Corporals. But, we mentor those who are rookies, take them under our wings, and teach them, and fill in as acting LT when needed. The reason for not making us official supervisors is a union thing, so that they can have more members in the union with greater work experience.
     
  12. Cochese

    Cochese Most mackinest CLM

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    Coincidentally, I was just bullied into testing as well. We don't call it a Corporal because the finance folks wouldn't let us have another rank so it is called MPO or Master Police Officer. It is one chevron with MPO under it.

    Same general duties though. Congrats GSD.
     
  13. GSD17

    GSD17 Thread Killer

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    Our pay is governed by a civil service board. They don't recognize the rank of Coroporal, either. With an agency near the size of 100 sworn (not counting jail), the only LE ranks we have are Sheriff, Chief Deputy, 7 Sergeants and the rest are slick sleeves. Cpl isn't a paying rank step . . . we do get more leeway with OT, though.
     
  14. GSD17

    GSD17 Thread Killer

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    Thanks for all the "congrats", btw.

    I woke up pumped and ready to go in . . . only to get screwed. Skimpy jail staff caused me to have to sit for 6 hours in the hospital with an inmate faking seizures.

    I get done, put him in the car, pull out of the parking lot and *thump* - here comes more BS seizures. BACK to the hospital. After a good, "quit being a F'in moron" talkin' to, he seems to feel better and we go to jail.

    The Sergeant stole my rook for the day . . I then proceeded to get hammered with walk in reports and jail issues.

    I burned my short day (one per pay period) and went home.

    Better luck tomorrow. . .
     
  15. Cochese

    Cochese Most mackinest CLM

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    We have a little under 200 including jail. Ours is an assignment rather than a rank. It isn't a paying rank step either. You get a bonus at the end of the year I think. Assuming its in the budget. You also get OT as a FTO which for me is $50 an hour.
     
  16. DaBigBR

    DaBigBR No Infidels!

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    I'm not one for being oversupervised, but that's NUTS!

    And FWIW, our FTOs get 10% extra pay while actually training somebody.
     
  17. indigent

    indigent Bamboozled

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    Acute Incarcertitis is a horrible affliction......

    A good finger flick to the eye lid always clears up the seizures that are brought on by being locked up....
     
  18. merlynusn

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    Our PTOs get 5% extra, but it's not a rank.

    Heck, we have Chief, Deputy Chief, Major, Captain, Lieutenant, Sergeant, and Officers. But we also have over 1700 sworn.

    And Congrats GSD for the advancement. Sounds like you'll do great. PTO is the one thing I wish I had gotten a chance to do that I haven't done yet.
     
    Last edited: Oct 25, 2012