hey i posted this in another thread but since there are always people just in general thinking of baers i wanted to post this up. www.proload.com crazy john @ proload has a sale right now on LB guns with the 1.5" guarantee. the prices are about as low as you'll ever find if you are considering buying a bear. there are numerous threads debating the the 'necessity' or 'value' or 'utility' of the 1.5" option basically asking 'if its worth it?' and you'll get different answers depending on who you ask. one thing that is very reasonable to say no matter which side of the debate youre on is that the 1.5" guns do get a bit more personal attention to fitting. since the sale is only if you order the 1.5" option it pretty much makes it a no-brainer IMHO in this case. you are for all practical purposes getting the 1.5" option for free or almost free. hard to find a better fit new weapon for these prices IMHO.