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Professional Gunsmith Review of SR1911

Discussion in '1911 Forums' started by ptmccain, May 26, 2011.

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  1. ptmccain

    ptmccain

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    Read this great review by a professional gunsmith, and am passing it along here:

    Well, it finally dried out enough to go to the range today. Just so happens that a friend of mine wanted to go also. He has never shot a 1911 before in his life. So I thought, well, this will be good. Let someone who is totally a novice at the 1911 have a spin at a gun to see if THEY can get it to malfunction by limp wristing, jerking, or whatever...the results were astonishing...

    First off I'm going to list the bullets and or loads that were shot out of this gun. This is not necessarily the order as at times we were shooting whatever our hands could get hold of to put into the mags. I will say that the pricey self defense stuff was shot by me in an order and manner in which I have experienced it would most likely cause malfunctions. I will also mention that the SR1911 I purchased came with one seven and one eight round mag.

    - 230g ball Armscorp factory load (1999ish)
    - 200g Cast LSWC 5.8g Unique
    - 185g Star swagged LHPWC 3.8g CLAYS
    - 200 Sierra FP 6.0 W231
    - 185g Zero JHP 4.1 Clays
    - 185g Nosler JHP Atlanta Arms Load
    - 230g Sierra HP CorBon Factory Load
    - 185g Starfire HP Factory Load
    - 185g (?) Winchester Silvertip HP Factory Load
    - 185g Cast LSWC TZZ (old milsurp load with short button nose bullet)
    - 200g Speer Gold Dot Factory Load

    In all, 225 rounds were fired in about 30 minutes. In total there were 11 different loads with 10 different bullet types tried. There was not one, and I mean not even a single solitary malfunction. Not when I put it in the hands of the newbie, not when I shot the softest wad loads I use (the 185g Star LSHP 3.8 CLAYS), not when I shot it sideways, upside down, soft handed or off the bench...it just ran and ran and ran.

    Now, that being said, I will be the first to admit that 225 rounds is not that many. However, putting 11 different types of ammo through it of all different nose types and o.a.l.'s is something that I have seen many other stock production, semi-custom and even custom guns choke on while trying to handle. Honestly, I was shocked...and impressed...and for those of you that really know me, you know that is pretty hard to do.

    This is not to say that the potential issues I listed in the initial review are not relevant. The slide stop nose and mag catch nose are still bumping which does affect accuracy. The extractor is still mis-fit, in my opinion, as is the ejector. The slide to frame is still loose side to side and etc. What it is to say is that this gun, out of the box, functioned with 225 rounds of 11 different loads and that is a good thing.

    Ejection: It was consistent with ball...6-7 feet at 5:00 from the shooter. With the self defense loads it was rather wild and all over which indicates a need, in my opinion, to tune the ejector and extractor a bit. With the soft loads it just dribbled them out of the gun and onto my feet, which is pretty normal when a gun sprung as this one was actually functions with them.

    The trigger: Ah, the trigger, yes, that funny little thing that can change on a whim if you are not careful. It went from being a VERY crisp 4lbs 14oz with a slight tick from time to time at the beginning to being a looong roll of just over 4lbs by the time we were done. This is the way I would expect a trigger with .026" hammer hooks and little to no relief on the sear to feel. It actually doesn't feel bad, but it is long! And this is pretty much what I expected to happen when I shot it as I knew that the fire control parts would mate together over time.

    Accuracy, well, ya. I shot it off the bench at 25 yards with both my accuracy hand loads of 185g Zero HP 4.1 CLAYS (a load that has consistently given me 10 shot groups of less than 1.5" at 50 yards out of custom built and re-built guns) and with a test load that I got from Atlanta Arms that has tested sub 1.300" 10 shot groups at 50 yards in many guns. Both targets were ten shots in wind that was about 20-25mph from left to right. The sights on this pistol need to be adjusted a bit but the groups off the rest were around 4-5". Considering the wind, as it was blowing the target and me pretty wildly, I don't think this is terribly bad and is certainly not out of line with what I have seen from other stock production guns. Although, I think that with better conditions it could shoot better. I did have one 5 shot group during a lull that went into 2.5" with the AA ammo.

    Overall, I was and am impressed with this gun out of the box. I'm not going to bother shooting it another couple of hundred rounds to see if it will fail. Instead I'm going to modify the things that I feel need to be fixed and sell it as my work with this particular piece is done for now. I hope it was as educational for you as the reader as it was for me as the smith. I personally would have no hesitation in purchasing one of these Ruger SR1911's at this time to shoot, enjoy and maybe even fix up for an everyday carry around gun if I was looking for something on a budget or just wanted something that was less expensive for outdoor use. It is, in my opinion at this time, an excellent value for the money.

    Thank you for reading, leaving your comments and feedback and supporting all of us smiths in what we do for a living.

    Respectfully,
    __________________
    Joe Chambers
    www.chamberscustom.com
    http://www.facebook.com/chamberscustompistols
    "Obsessibly Reliable, Accurate and Beautiful"
    American Pistolsmiths Guild Member
     
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  2. BlayGlock

    BlayGlock

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    If you were a real pro you would not hang around people if such questionable character.














    J/k thank you for the extensive report.
     


  3. Psychman

    Psychman NRA Life Member

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    Thanks for taking the time to write a report. I still have not got to the range to try mine out.
     
  4. Quack

    Quack Rent this space

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  5. faawrenchbndr

    faawrenchbndr DirtyThirty fan CLM

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    Could you explain this for me? :dunno:

    Did you copy & post a review Joe Chambers wrote? Or, are you trying to pass this off
    as a review written by yourself, a "professional gunsmith"?
     
  6. okie

    okie GT Mayor

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  7. Hokie1911

    Hokie1911 >

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    I'm surprised he didn't complain about the MIM slide. :dunno:
     
  8. Psychman

    Psychman NRA Life Member

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    Interesting development. Please answer this question for us OP.
     
  9. El_Ron1

    El_Ron1 AAAAAAAAGHHH!!!

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    Didn't Joe stomp out of here mad, or was another forum?
     
  10. Hokie1911

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    Perhaps TOS? Never seen him on here (thankfully).
     
  11. For his sin, how many hail mary would he have to do?
     
  12. faawrenchbndr

    faawrenchbndr DirtyThirty fan CLM

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    I do not think I've ever seen a post from Chambers here, but I could have missed it.
     
  13. If you read the OP's lead sentence, it's clear he is passing on a review by Joe Chambers...one of the better young gunsmiths, IMO.
     
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  14. Hokie1911

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    You mean the "lead sentence" that he edited and added like an hour ago to clarify his post?
     
  15. mrsurfboard

    mrsurfboard The Anti-Glock

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    I think he made it pretty clear he is reposting it and not claiming ownership by himself.
     
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  16. faawrenchbndr

    faawrenchbndr DirtyThirty fan CLM

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  17. Isn't Joe the one that got the smack-down by Wilson Combat for talking smack about the origin of their forgings?
     
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