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Preventing Another Sandy Hook

Discussion in 'Political Issues' started by RussP, Dec 17, 2012.


  1. RussP

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    Layered physical security is the answer.

    Cheap but hefty steal bars on classroom doors.

    Fire doors rigged to lock with special code for area sequestration.

    Controlled entrances to the school building. Entrances overwatched by armed security.

    Fences around schools, controlled entrance, also overwatched by armed security able to disable vehicle with engine block strike. Could also act as anti-sniper teams.

    There is no cookie cutter response, but there are some obvious capabilities that most will want to have, given the proper advice.
     
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    Naw selective arming of the faculty is a cheaper better option. Have atleast 4 per school! Depending on the size of the school. Since alot of the teachers are now ex military that shouldn't be a problem in finding very well qualified folks to do it! What better way to combat terroist acts then having well armed ex terrorist killers in schools!
    Win win! We get rid of a gun free zone and protect the "CHILDREN" like libertards like to do! Cheaper then paying a cop to be in school.:supergrin:
     
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    Naw selective arming of the faculty is a cheaper better option. Have atleast 4 per school! Depending on the size of the school. Since alot of the teachers are now ex military that shouldn't be a problem in finding very well qualified folks to do it! What better way to combat terrorist acts then having well armed ex terrorist killers in schools!
    Win win! We get rid of a gun free zone and protect the "CHILDREN" like libertards like to do! Cheaper then paying a cop to be in school.:supergrin:
     
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    Fixing public school is the answer.

    It damages some children who arrive at its doors healthy, and sure doesn't help many who arrive at its doors already damaged.
     
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    Holy ****! I agree.


    Turning our schools into more secure environments than the jail at which I work is not the answer. A cultural shift back to established and absolute morals, along with better treatment and removal (if necessary) of mentally ill folks front the street would better serve society. You have no idea of how jails have become mental health treatment facilities, holding inmates until they're declared incompetent and released, only for them to reoffend very shortly.

    Addressing family values and the mentally ill will work wonders. Ever wonder why the frequently of events like this was much less in the 50's and prior?

    Of course, I'm all for allowing teachers to carry, if they wish, and for maintaining an SRO spot - but a fortress does not make a good school.
     
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    There will always be an exception. No amount of effort will make every kid a good adult. You have to take steps to slow down or stop the mayhem once a person has taken action.

    It's just simply time to realize that there will always be the occasional bad guy out there.
     
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    Not only would that render the schools less attractive to wackos, but one would think Obama & Co. would LEAP at the idea of putting so many more folks into a government job category. :eyebrow:

    ALSO: What about safe-guarding the transit? The buses? How's that going to work?:dunno:
     
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    I agree! Not every teacher needs to carry but at least a few would be the best defense. You can't turn schools into fortresses with armed guards at every entrance.
     
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    Screw allowing teachers to carry.

    Allow PARENTS to carry.

    Screw adding additional 'special' rights for gov employees. Instead give us back our Rights.
     
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    google ssir's. every mass shooter from stockman ca. to sandy hook was on ssir's. one in ten folks take ssir's. ban ssir's.
     
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    Stanford Social Innovation Review? :dunno:

    Perhaps you could just spell it out for us :whistling:
     
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    Selective serotonin re-uptake inhibitors or serotonin-specific reuptake inhibitor

    Mood altering drugs.
     
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    There has been a lot if conflicting stuff out there, but the latest I've read said they cannot find that he was under any psych care, no meds, and they did not know if he had ever been formally diagnosed with any form of autism.
     
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    So, what are we left with?

    The guy had a ****ty family life? His condition was genetic? BTW, I haven't heard a blasted thing about his role-model-daddy..
    :eyebrow:
     
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    I agree completely.
     
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    Something to think about. [​IMG]

    Maybe an aggressive "neighborhood watch" at the bus stops, and hardened buses. Probably don't need MRAP school buses, but bullet resistant glass and kevlar spall inserts would help. Runflat tires. Maybe even look at armed bus drivers, after a thorough psych eval and some training. Anything is possible.

    Spall is the pieces of metal knocked off the interior of armor from an external ballistic strike. They become secondary missiles even when a projectile does not penetrate armor.


    My youngest is a senior in HS this year.
    I'd still gladly vote yes on a bond to increase physical security at our schools. You cannot cover everywhere, but after this, we should do our best. If we don't, we are to blame for not trying to prevent the next massacre of innocent children. Humans are hard wired to rabidly protect our young, even to unreasonable and irrational levels. Personally, I'm for giving parents the ability to do that.

    That may be upstream for the mainstream, but I have stuff that will only be used to defend my children, not harm the children of others.