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Press Frets over Kiddies of Deported Parents

Discussion in 'Political Issues' started by maxsnafu, Apr 8, 2012.

  1. maxsnafu

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  2. rhikdavis

    rhikdavis U.S. Veteran

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    In Remembrance
    OR send them to angelina jolie or madonna.
     


  3. Hyksos

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    Until you understand the INA (Immigration and Nationality Act) and the endless statutes found in the INA code, and the CFR provisions that regulate it, you will never truly understand why people come here illegally. Sure some of them want to freeload, but many of them want to be Americans and simply can't be.

    I'm just curious. If coming here legally isn't a big deal, then I challenge whatever GT member wants to try. I challenge you to give me a quick run down of the proper procedure for coming here legally. Nothing special, but seriously give it a good 20 or 30 minute try. What forms - how long - and what kind of visa.

    Good luck.

    Here. Let's say you're a 24 year old unmarried adult from the Philippines with a US citizen father. How long do you think it would take you to get here? I'm not even talking a total stranger, I'm talking someone whose biological father is a US citizen living in the US.
     
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  4. juggy4711

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    If your contention is that it should be easy to immigrate here so that individuals do not feel the need to do it illegally, then your argument is weak. I could care less how many relatives one has that are US citizens. There are certain people we simply do not need here and quite frankly would be better off without.
     
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  5. maxsnafu

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    Sure, some of them simply want to be Americans but what about what Americans want? Do their desires count for anything? I think in an era of huge unemployment there should be a moratorium on all immigration, legal and illegal. The last time I was in five o'clock traffic I didn't think "Gee, we need more cars on the road." And I'm not the only American who feels that way.
     
  6. We shipped Elian Gonzalez home and he was here legally (dry foot).
     
  7. Hyksos

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    I was merely trying to show that it is impossible for people to come here legally, even when their own biological father is a US citizen.

    I'm 100% white non hispanic, but living amongst their culture has showed me many things. Studying the law of immigration moreso has showed me that there are many problems with the INA. If you don't want anybody to come here to this country anymore, then maybe you should stop preaching "America is #1."

    Maybe America should stop leading the world in all cultural, technological, and political affairs? Look, immigrants have always been an integral part of this nation. What do you think is gonna happen when you preach the worldwide over how great our freedom is? How great our laws are, and how this is the land of opportunity? Do you expect people to just sit around and cry about how bad their country is? I believe the entire Republican party idea about stopping immigration is horribly wrong. I didn't believe this until I studied the INA in detail. The thing is a complex hellhole. Fix the INA. Right now you wonder why people come here illegally and why they break our laws. Well maybe because it's impossible to get here otherwise.
    Everyone is free to disagree, but ultimately I think the INA is responsible for many people coming here illegally. Blaming the illegal immigrant for stealing your job is just like blaming the 'assault weapon' for shooting up a school.
     
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  8. With a family, also here legally. Clinton sucks.
     
  9. certifiedfunds

    certifiedfunds Tewwowist

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    All you folks who demand your Social Security checks and Medicare had better learn to love illegal immigrants.:whistling:
     
  10. G17Jake

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    Why can't Mexico be a better place so Mexicans can stay there and prosper?
     
  11. greentriple

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    We are a nation of immigrants, legal and illegal. Each moment in history has brought foreign natives to our shores, Irish, Russian, Vietnamese, Cuban to name a few and with them there has always been the same wining from those who believe America is for those already here. Ironically, these "Americans" are not trumpeting the Native American's right to first here supremacy or offering to leave and give them back what they had before the first European illegal immigrants arrived. True new groups bring problems and often crime develops and organizes in their impoverished communities. But as the groups become more integrated we even glorify their crime. The hypocrisy of the "already here" never stops amazing me. The vile hatred of "others" extends even to innocent children.

    What a boring and tasteless place America would be without all the wondrous diversity brought to our shoes by immigrants legal and illegal. Food, science, art, medicine, government, every aspect of our lives are better from what immigrants have contributed. And as for illegals, without them where would the fresh fruits and vegetables you eat come from, where would the clean dishes you eat from in restaurants come from, not to mention the countless other niceties you take or granted without knowing an illegal makes them possible. And if you claim "Americans" will do it, try again you don't, unless originally part of that labor group.

    God Bless America, land that I love and the hopes she stands for around the world. "Give me your tired, you poor, your huddled masses yearning to breath free...."


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  12. G17Jake

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    I bolded a critical part.

    We don't need and I certainly don't want anyone coming here and voting for the neo-Democrat candidates who are definately NOT about freedom. If they want socialism I suggest they go to Europe or Canada.

    Also, we can't afford to have people coming here looking for welfare benefits.
     
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  13. greentriple

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    Jake, because Mexico is so far from God and so close to the United States. BTW where are your ancestors from? And as for your other comment, stay on point.


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  14. LAWDOGKMS

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    What a wonderful, safe place America would be WITHOUT all the crap that illegal immigrants of late bring with them. In every city in this country, there is a population of illegal immigrants conspiring and committing crime against good people, from the Cubans in South Florida to the Jamaicans in Maryland, to the Mexicans in California, to the middle easterners who slipped in through Mexico, practice the Muslim religion and want all of us to submit to Allah or die.
     
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  15. Javelin

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    But the problem is the polls show that most do not want to consider themselves American first.

    :dunno:
     
  16. greentriple

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    You sir are a bigoted racist, but I appreciate you honesty. I wonder what perfect and non-criminal human pieces you are from.


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  17. greentriple

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    And just for good measure: Before the Muslim and Latino blithe as you would describe it, America was a safe place, when?


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  18. certifiedfunds

    certifiedfunds Tewwowist

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    There is nothing bigoted or racist about his comments.
     
  19. maxsnafu

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    ..and maybe you should stop putting words into my mouth. I didn't say that and you know it. One question I would like for you to answer, if you have the guts: If a majority of the American people want a temporary halt to immigration would you acquiesce to their desire or would you continue to force immigration down their throats?
     
  20. greentriple

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    Um, yes it is. It focuses on a groups racial and cultural make up and attributes criminality to them based on said make up. It also does so in gross generalizations based not on statistical or empirical analysis but on personal biased emotion. Further, it implies criminal conduct uniquely to groups based on race or culture as if it is unique to these groups. Finally, it disregards positive contributions.

    Race and culture are minor if not insignificant factors in criminality. Further with the exception that illegal immigration is, well illegal and thus a crime, illegal immigrants do not possess a heightened level of criminality base don race or culture, i.e. Mexican, Cuban, Muslim.

    However, based on your groundless defense and clear support of the prior post I do not expect you to understand this beyond an emotional disagreement.


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