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Powder for nood loading .40

Discussion in 'Reloading' started by dstanley66, Sep 23, 2012.

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  1. dstanley66

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    All I have is HS6 and HP38 but cant find no data for HP38, would a slow powder be best for a noob in .40 I'm taking my time a looking at every charged case. I just want to be safe, wife will also be shooting .40 and don't want no KB ! thought about titegroup but somewhere Fred said tg-noob dont mix well. Using PD 180gr fmj in a G-23 and G-27
     
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  2. F106 Fan

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    There is data for both powders at the Hodgdon site.

    http://data.hodgdon.com/main_menu.asp

    Select 'pistol' and '40 s&w' then click 'Get Data'
    Select bullet weight and powder then click 'Get Data'

    Richard
     
  3. HAMMERHEAD

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    Any data for W231 works for HP-38, they are the same powder.
     
  4. shotgunred

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    HP 38 is an accurate powder as long as you stick with mid range and down rounds.
     
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  5. FFR Spyder GT

    FFR Spyder GT Ex-Gunslinger

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    I like the Clays "Universal" for the .40cal.

    Actually for plinking loads I use Universal for everything from .380, 9mm, .40S&W, 10mm, .45acp, .45 Scholfeld, .45 Colt and .454 Casull.

    One pistol powder makes every thing so much simpler.
     
  6. dstanley66

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    I've looked at the hodgdon site, that data shows 180gr. hdy xtp, would it be the same for precision delta 180gr. fmg? I really dont want a fast burning or hot powder as I have just started reloading
     
  7. shotgunred

    shotgunred local trouble maker

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    In the 40 SW I have used and liked

    1. Win 231
    2. WSF
    3. WST
    4. Power Pistol
    5. SR7625
    6. Tightgroup

    Tightgroup is not a medium burner and should only be used with bunny fart loads.
     
  8. DWARREN123

    DWARREN123 Grumpy Old Guy

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    I like Hodgdon's Longshot for about any but the lightest 40 S&W loadings.
    Accurate, clean and has a lower chamber pressure than just about all other powders for the 40. :supergrin:
     
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  9. F106 Fan

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    But YOU picked the powder, all I did was point out some data. Both powders, as it turns out, are quite slow:
    http://www.hodgdon.com/burn-rate.html

    If the XTP is to be considered 'plated', and I believe it is, it wouldn't be unusual for the load to be somewhat lighter than what can be used for a FMJ.

    Still, I would start with the minimum Hodgdon load and work up.

    Or, I might take the HS-6 data from the Hornady manual and note that Hornady considers the data to be the same for the HP-XTP, FMJ-FP (discontinued, bummer...) and HAP bullets.

    Or, I might take the HS-6 data from the Speer manual and note that the GDHP-SB, TMJ FN and GDHP all use the same data and it is smokin'.

    Sierra has data for their 180 gr JHP for both HS-6 and W231 (HP-38).

    So, published data is all over the place. It is still a matter of starting low and working up in 0.1 gr steps towards, but hopefully never reaching, MAX.

    Personally, I would probably pick WSF as the powder.

    Richard
     
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  10. dstanley66

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    Thanks f106fan , hope to get a few worked today and try them out.

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  11. shotgunred

    shotgunred local trouble maker

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    Start here HP-38 4.1 gr 1.125 OAL VEL at sea level 800.
    I have shot thousands of this load and find it accurate and low recoil. It does tend to leave burn marks on the side of your case. I have used this load with Rainier fmj, JHP, MG fnrp and PD fmj with no problem whats so ever.
     
  12. sellersm

    sellersm disciplinare

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    Shotgunred listed the load that I use as well.
     
  13. dstanley66

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    Thanks shotgunred, just got a 1k cases primed and ready, hope i get time this wk to try some.

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  14. fredj338

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    Nope Richard, the XTP is nothing like a plated bullet. It's one of the thicker jackerted designs & has a longer bearing surface than many others in the same wt range, so you want to use something close in shape. Even the GDHP is not a true plated bullet.
    WSF, Universal, Unique, PP, HS6, AA#7, all are good 40 powders for mid range to full power loads. You are right, TG should be avoided for noobs, just not a happy powder to work with. For lighter loads, W231/HP38 works fine, so does WST, but not much data for it in 40.
     
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  15. dstanley66

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    Thank you Fred, I'm going stick with hs6 for my loads, and the hp38 for my wife, she loves shooting .40 now.

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