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Poll: Libertarian Party nominee could be spoiler in Nevada -- for Obama

Discussion in 'Political Issues' started by GAFinch, Oct 11, 2012.


  1. GAFinch

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    There are quite a few social liberals in the libertarian party. Not a huge surprise.
     

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    Good, so now when I say I'm voting for Gary Johnson, you guys can thank me because I'm helping Romney out.


    Like I said before, either way I don't give a $%^@ who you think I help "win". A vote is a vote.
     
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    Who ever would have thought that potheads would influence a presidential election?
     
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    No, more like people who realize that what others do is none of their damn business if they're not forcing it on anyone else.

    I know lots of folks that lead a very "conservative" lifestyle but are adult enough to mind their business.
     
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    Exactly. I never understand when the big gov't RINOs on this board accuse me of being liberal, because I want the gov't out of the American's lives in ALL aspects.
     
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    Yet another brilliant response. :rofl:

    To the left libertarians are gun nuts, to the right they are drug users. Hated because they're adult enough to not have to force their BS on other people.
     
  8. GAFinch

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    Yeah there are, but they sure won't admit it here. I've certainly seen them tell each other on Ron Paul forums that the LP is closer in ideology to the Democrat Party than to the Republican Party.
     
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    It may be hard for you to wrap your head around this, it is somewhat obscure. You're correct, "A vote is a vote", but now here's the difficult part, a vote for Johnson is a vote for Obama. So you are supporting Obama. You might not think it, in fact it doesn't matter what you think. You are supporting Obama. You are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. A lot of idiot college students and gays etc. are supporting Obama, they thank you, they also laugh at you.
     
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    NV imposed Harry Reid on us all ... F* 'em .... :frown:

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    It seems like you have some reading comprehension issues there. This article is saying Obama may lose because some of his party is voting for Johnson, so if we go by your utopian way of thinking, a vote for Johnson would be like a vote for Romney.

    Yep, you can thank me in 2012 for giving Romney a vote, because I voted Johnson.
     
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    Libertarians are "mistrusted" because they pretended to support Ron Paul and his strict constitutional beliefs, but when Ron Paul imploded they switched to Barack Obama who represents the exact polar opposite of Ron Paul's political views.

    Explain that?

    The only explanation is that after Ron Paul's demise they looked at Romney and Obama and asked who's more likely to legalize marijuana? The choice was clear.

    Now that they realize that Obama will most likely lose, they're switching sides again.

    Is this what dopers call "chasing the dragon"?...:rofl:
     
  13. Bren

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    If you don't care who wins the election, why would you go vote?:dunno:

    However, if the libertarians are really drawing more votes from the liberal/democrat side, then I encourage people to go vote Libertarian...I just don't think that is really the case. Of the 2 parties, the Democrats hate personal freedom a little more than the Republicans.

    I notice the article mentions "Obama's lead over Romney." I heard them trying to explain that, frantically, on NPR yesterday. Apparently, Romney has a pretty good 4-5% lead, if you only count people who say they are likely to vote in the election. But if you include people who plan on staying home on election day, Obama is still ahead.:rofl::rofl: Seriously - that was the explanation. I can't really make that any funnier than NPR did.
     
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    I care who wins. I want Gary Johnson to win.

    Between Obama and Romney though, I don't care. Same S*** different ***hole. :dunno:

    They both hate personal freedom, and both parties have been guilty of everything from big brother to gun control, to even welfare. To think Romney will be the golden ticket America needs is straight utopia.
     
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    Your vote doesn't matter, all of the Texas electoral votes will go to Romney.:nutcheck:
    Your opinion is meaningless.

    I want to win the lottery, but I won't even buy a ticket, so it's not happening.:upeyes:

    It doesn't matter what you want.
     
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    Hey, Democracy isn't perfect, we get the Government we deserve. I think this time around there are enough people with their heads screwed on straight to override your foolishment. You are in Texas aren't you? Do you know where you're voting?
     
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    That's part of the answer. Obama is also less likely to interfere with a woman's choice to have an abortion. Obama is less likely to intefere with anybody's choice to watch porn.

    If a Libertarian had to look at only choosing between Romney and Obama, it is unsurprising one would choose Obama. It's not a slam-dunk in either direction. How does that make Libertarians untrustworthy? Both Obama and Romney are the exact polar opposite of Ron Paul. Are you saying that any Libertarian who votes for a mainstream candidate is untrustworthy, even though only a mainstream candidate can win?
     
  18. Bren

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    More so than thinking you get to vote for "the golden ticket America needs"?:upeyes:
     
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    It comes down to you and other liberals have certain rights that are more improtant to you - the right to have abortions, watch porn, use drugs, etc.

    More conservative types have certain rights that are more important to them, such as the rights to own guns, pracitce their religions, keep the fruits of their labor and provide for their families.

    Even though I am not religious, I side with the conservatives on those. However, both groups are for individual freedom on some issues and against on others. To me, it seems like the conservatives/Republicans support individual freedom on the more important issues, but watching porn and smoking dope may be much more important to you thahn to me. Your response is so off that, to me, it seems like you are making fun of the liberals/libertarians by suggesting that they place the most value on such things.
     
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    Your assumption that Romney would protect the conservative rights you enumerate is where you are going wrong. In a matchup between Obama and a real conservative you would have a point. Between Obama and Romney, you have none. Romney is first and foremost an authoritarian. Polar opposite of libertarian.
     
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