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Police Depts going back to 9mm.

Discussion in 'Caliber Corner' started by mikegun, Apr 15, 2012.

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  1. mikegun

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    Does anybody have thoughts as to why many US police depts are changing back to 9mm from 40 cal?......
     
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  2. WASR10

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    I took a ccw class a couple weeks ago and the deputy told me that many LEO agencies are regretting "drinking the .40 cal kool-aid" because the caliber was sold as being 9mm recoil with .45 knock down, but they have found the round to be .45 recoil with 9mm knock down. I, personally, have not found that to be the case. I manage the recoil just fine, and the .40 is a very potent round for penetration.
     


  3. Cheaper cost and more rounds per clip :rock:
     
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  4. dkf

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    Probably recoil. Contract prices on ammo is a wash and capacity isn't really enough to be a concern.
     
  5. PghJim

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    I have heard a little of this. Do you know the magnitude of the change or any specific Departments that have done so? I know I was talking to a local LEO at the range and they were thinking about it because of the problems they were having with hand pain with the 40. He also told me that the 9mm rounds of today are much better than what they were in 90's.
     
  6. itstime

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    Are there any facts that the change to 9mm is even a fact?
     
  7. banjobob

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    More women joining the police force?
     
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  8. bmoore

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    Under a regime.
    Shoulda never wondered away from real 10mm's.
     
  9. bmoore

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    Under a regime.
    Delete, double post
     
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  10. TSAX

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    This could be a cost thing or also that the advancement in 9mm ammo.








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  11. Tiro Fijo

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    If it is indeed so I have not seen it. I could see recoil being a problem in the .40 S&W for some as most cops today are not 'gun' people per se and many have little if any experience beforehand.

    I'm reminded of the old joke that if you are robbing a bank & the cops burst in shooting then merely turn sideways and remain perfectly still as they will never hit you!! :whistling: :supergrin:
     
  12. JerryC09

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    If that's the case, I guess they aren't going with Glock 9mms? Seeing as there are the "limp wristing" problems? :crying:
     
  13. Which Police dept's are contemplating this?
    Here in Georgia the State patrol went .45 GAP and our local Sheriff dept. is carrying .40's as are most in the area.

    I could see it as a cost thing maybe but the advancements in 9 mm ammo? Wouldn't those same bullet advancements carry over to .40 and .45 to make that a wash?
     
  14. Louisville Glocker

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    Clip?????:tongueout:
     
  15. Glocksteady

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    No. All ammunition manufacturers in the US stopped all R&D on the .40 after they got the boys in Quantico to drink the koolaid. They immediately went to throwing everything back into development of the 9mm super bullet that does everything better than any other bullet. Just ask the fanboys. M:rofl:
     
  16. cowboy1964

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    Several state police have switched from .40 to .357 Sig or .45s (ACP or GAP).

    The fact is there little difference in effectiveness and the 9mm has advantages of its own. If vehicle penetration was a large concern (as it would be with LE and, in particular, staties) I'd prefer the .357 Sig. But they're all good.
     
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  17. oldman11

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    Not as potent as the 10mm or 357 Sig
     
  18. schiffer99

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    I don't know of any LE agency that has gone from the .40 to the 9mm.... anyone have any actual info if this is indeed happening?
     
  19. 9mm +p+

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    Yes, our local metro PD is in the process of switching from G22/23's to M&P 9's, not sure of the duty load. Sheriff's carry 9mm Glocks, 124 GD's. Personally i see little need for the 40 anymore, in the early 90's absolutely, but now? Not so much, quality 9 loads perform just as well as 40 loads with more rounds on tap and less recoil. As far as I'm concened there is no 40, i run 9 or 45.
     
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  20. Tango 1Zero

    Tango 1Zero Millennium Member

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    Please switch we need more Police trade in 9mm's down the road.
     
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