I gotta say I'm really liking unique powder more and more. I discovered it makes very very economical loads & powerful in the 10mm and many other cartridges. It has virtually zero muzzle flash, just a dull orange little ball, which so many people strive for. I have found the perfect 155 grain load, 7.5 gr for high 1200's (out of my 6 inch bbl) FPS, and the perfect 357 magnum load for 125 grain pills, 9 grains does mid 1200's from 3 inch revolver and 1650 from my 16 inch carbine, and its sooo pleasent to shoot in the carbine while delivering 750 ft-lbs energy. Anyways I have not played with it in the 180 grain weight range yet. Through my research and development I created great HOT loads for the 180 gr range with power pistol and will always shoot them, now I want a good soft shooting load for the 180 grain range, soemthing thats about equivalent power level to the factory load Remington UMC 180, those do 1150, what charge weights am I lookin at folks? Based on manuals looks to me to be about 7 but Id just like to hear from people that have worked with unique and 180 gr slugs. Just a side note, I was out shooting yesterday and as always tested more loads over chronograph and this time with my 357 mag carbine, anways I bought a can of 2400 cuz so many manuals and people online praise it as the perfect high velocity powder for magnum loads, well the velocities blew though. Under a 158 slug a max charge of 14.8 gr only clocked 1550 - 1600 FPS, this is from a 16 inch barrel. Whereas I could get 1800 FPS from 17 gr Winchester 296. Why does 2400 blow velocity wise? Wanna kill these ads? We can help!