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Please help w/ 45 load for Berrys/Unique

Discussion in 'Reloading' started by mdlott, Oct 13, 2010.

  1. mdlott

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    Just bought 250 Berrys plated 230gr RN to try. I use Unique with jacketed bullets primarily, but I'm having trouble locating a proven load for this combo. Gun is a 30sf, and I have been loading to 1.240 OAL and crimping w/ Lee FCD to .470. I'm thinking of starting @ 6.0 grs. Might this be a good starting point?
     
  2. fredj338

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    Plated load between lead & jacketed. At 6gr, you are pushing factory vel levels of 830fps or so (5"bbl). You won't blow anything up @ 6gr, but it is getting up near top end for plated.
     

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  3. XDRoX

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    I load Berry's 230gr with 5.8gr of Unique. Feels like WWB to me. I have also shot a lot of 6.0gr but as Fred said, it shouldn't be a starting load.
     
  4. mdlott

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    Thanks for the reply, gentlemen. Is a light taper crimp w/ the Lee FCD appropriate, and should I expect any difference as compared to FMJ bullets?
     
  5. XDRoX

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    I've never used a Lee FCD, but a light taper crimp is all you need. With plated bullets you have to be sure not to dent the bullet with the crimp. If you're denting the bullet it's too much crimp IMO.
     
  6. hoffy

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    I think I would load up 20 rounds, start at 5.1 or so, and increase .2, or .3 grains-5 rounds each and shoot at paper. 6.0 is on the high side I would think, and for near max loads I always work up
     
  7. fredj338

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    I am not a fan of the LFCD. In my limited testing, I find it hurts accuracy w/ plated bullets. So the std taper crimp is more than enough. I also wouldn't Run Unique under the 230gr Ranier less than 5.5gr, it's gonna start leave unburned powder, lots of it.
     
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  8. mdlott

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    I was having FTE and stovepipe issues with a 230gr RN JACKETED at 5.5 grs. I'm trying to alleviate that problem, and it appears as if I may be on the right track. BTW, the gun is a 30sf, about 6 wks old, with appx 250 rounds. Maybe still breaking in, but it shoots Ranger T +P w/ no malfunctions whatsoever.
     
  9. fredj338

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    At 5.5gr under a 230grFMJ, that is barley hitting 740fps if that. That would likely be your FTF issue. At 6gr, you are just o/ 800fps. That would be my min w/ a 230grFMJ. If you are going to load plated or lead, diff still.
     
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  10. mdlott

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    VERY good information. Thank you very, very much for taking the time to provide guidance and insight. You're obviously very knowledgeable, and it's nice to get informative opinions. I've been loading for rifles and revolvers for a while, but auto pistols are a little bit different. Thanks again for your help.