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Please be patient, 1911 noob questions

Discussion in '1911 Forums' started by GSX-MAN, Feb 23, 2012.

  1. MoCop

    MoCop

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    Congrats on your CZ. If you are still in the market for a 1911, what about the Kimber Custom II models. They're good guns for the money.

    Sent from my Droid, using my thumbs to type.
     
  2. GSX-MAN

    GSX-MAN

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    If I were still in the market for a brand new 1911, the Kimber would be top of my list. They cost around €1250 overhere, which is slightly over $1500.

    For now, I got my mind set on testing the Norinco. If it's within my expectations, I will make the trade and start having it customised. I like projects. :D
     


  3. Bruce Foreman

    Bruce Foreman Millennium Member

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    I've had 5 Norinco's. For some stupid reason I would feel like I had to sell them off, last one I sold I saw a former Marine friend use to put 5 rounds through one hole at 30 feet in failing daylight.

    They come with tiny sights. Of the two I have left, I had a gunsmith put bigger "old man" sights on for me. I had to bring it back to him a couple of times to have him mill the rear sight down before it began shooting to point of aim.

    Other than that, the only thing I changed on it was the grips, found a pair of nice double diamond wood grips that I liked. I added some non slip tape (normally used on concrete steps to prevent slipping) with the texture crushed down to the front part of the grip strap. Kind of poor man's checkering.

    The other Norinco I have I bought recently for it's "bling". Nickle plated, more of a "show off" piece at the range. Every Norinco I've have shot to point of aim and was a solid performing gun. They generally have stronger steel than Colts.

    I wouldn't change much of anything unless you find a faulty component. Mine even handle hollow point without a problem.
     
    Last edited: Sep 28, 2012
  4. Nestor

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    Invading Netherlands is even easier, so just don't sweat too much. BTW...we have many, many Norincos around here - about 90% of those are crap, so be careful. I think that Norinco 1911 is perfect if You are new to the platform - just to learn and make all the mistakes on the cheap pistol. Who knows? In the end You may build yourself a nice 1911. However I wouldn't spend any money on upgrading it via gunsmith - learn this stuff yourself. I had 3 Norincos so far (1911, bolt rifle and 22 pistol), all 3 had serious issues and one literally disintegrated in my hand on the range. Good luck though.
     
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  5. Bill Keith

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    The CZ is a great pistol. As per a 1911, shop around, make sure it meets ISO 9001 standards and you are good to go. Meeting those standards it meets international quality standards and you'll have parts interchangeability when you wear out a part. :cool:
     
  6. GSX-MAN

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    Sounds good. And the idea of owning a .45 is appealing. Of course it's overkill on paper targets, but I like it. Just like my .30-06: insanely overpowered, but tons of fun.
     
  7. GSX-MAN

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    Okay, the project is starting to get concrete. How about these parts:

    STI Trigger Long Polymer Black
    Wilson Combat Value Line Speed Hammer 1911 Blue
    STI Beavertail Grip Safety 1911 Series 70 Blue
    Swenson Drop-In National Match barrel bushing
    ERGO Grips XT Tapered Bottom
    LPA SPR 1911 Narrow Tenon Front 3-Dot sights
     
  8. I really like the Cylinder and Slide ignition kits. You get a complete drop in trigger kit and most of the time you don't need to do a thing to it.
     
  9. glock2740

    glock2740 Gun lover.

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  10. GSX-MAN

    GSX-MAN

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    Who's trying to rob me? Just about anyone. Since I live in Europe, we need to import Kimber. So I end up being robbed by your state and/or commerce department for the export license, customs in my country and my local dealer, who also needs to make a profit.

    If I want to buy a new 1911 for a reasonable price, my options are very limited. Taurus ($900) or Norinco ($435-$535). Kimber, STI,SVI and the likes cost an arm and a leg.
     
  11. faawrenchbndr

    faawrenchbndr DirtyThirty fan CLM

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    I do not think he realized you were outside ConUS
     
  12. Clutch Cargo

    Clutch Cargo Amsterdam Haze

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    Can you get a German made Sig at a decent price?
     
  13. GSX-MAN

    GSX-MAN

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    I've shot the X-five in .45. It's made by the Sig-Sauer Mastershop and sets you back about $3350. But it's one of the finest pistols I've ever shot.

    I suppose the Sig Sauer 1911 is available for The Netherlands, but I can't find a dealer/price online.
     
  14. GSX-MAN

    GSX-MAN

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    However, reviewing the quote glock2740 made, that pistol is the direction my project is heading.

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    Adjustable sights, skeletonized trigger and hammer, extended beavertail. No serrations on the front of the slide, I hardly ever put my hand there. The magazine catch will move to the other side since I am a southpaw. Ergo Grips for the skateboard tape-feel, but what should I do to the front of the grip?
     
  15. Skateboard tape works fine. I used to use a mill to recess the front of the grips just the thickness of the griptape so it went up under the grip and looked super clean.

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  16. GSX-MAN

    GSX-MAN

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    I was thinking in the lines of a set of Ergo Grips with a Wilson Combat frontstrap. But is any kind of checkering needed for the front of the grip?
     
  17. F106 Fan

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    In my view, yes!

    That forestrap checkering helps keep the gun from rocking up or torquing in your hands during recoil. I care less about the side grips than I do about the forestrap.

    As to the checkering: The more agressive, the better. Of all of my .45s, I like my new Sig 1911 XO for the grip panels and the forestrap. This gun is easy to hold onto.

    I use the Talon grips on my Glock G21SF and I really like them. They will probably wear out clothes when used for concealment but the gun stays put in your hands.

    http://talongungrips.com/

    You can always add a strip of 3M Tread Tape or Skateboard Tape to the forestrap:

    http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/Building-Life/Cycle/Offers/Three/

    Richard
     
  18. GSX-MAN

    GSX-MAN

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    Thanks!

    I tried the Norinco tonight, I'm going to get this one. It has a smooth trigger and action and decent groups at 10 yards. 25 is going to be a bit more work.

    Slide and frame aren't as tight as my CZ, but within reason. But man, a .45 is great fun!
     
  19. fnfalman

    fnfalman Chicks Dig It

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    I would recommend selling the SW pistol, get a CZ-75 of some sort AND a SW revolver.
     
  20. GSX-MAN

    GSX-MAN

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    I already have the CZ75 Shadow and absolutely no wish to own a revolver.