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Plated Bullets..

Discussion in 'Reloading' started by APERS, Oct 14, 2012.


  1. APERS

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    Anyone have any positive or negative feedback on reloading
    124gr Berrys or Ranier plated bullets? Pistol is G19 with factory bbl. Am just wondering if theyre are any issues with accuracy with these two bullets. Also want to know before I order a bunch of 'em. They need to be fast enough to make IDPA power factor, w/o being wild accuracy wise. Any advice/input would be greatly appreciated, Thank you!
     

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  2. HAMMERHEAD

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    I've used Berry's 124 HBFP and HBRN with good success in a G-19. I've had them up to 1,055 fps using SR 7625 without issue. Accuracy was good in my G-19.
     

  3. glock_19guy1983

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    They are fine for IDPA. Use reloading data for lead bullets with them. I like 4.4gr of Universal clays with a 1.14OAL. It makes for a nice soft shooting IDPA load in my Kimber.
     
  4. Larryect

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    I have used sveral brands of plated bullets for casual shooting, loaded with W231. They seen fine to me. They are farily soft. I prefer xtreme bullets. Their plating seems heavier

    http://www.xtremebullets.com/
     
  5. HAMMERHEAD

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    FWIW, I've found they shoot much closer to the speeds predicted in jacketed data than they do to lead data.
     
  6. F106 Fan

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    Why use plated bullets? They aren't that much cheaper than jacketed from Precision Delta and you don't have to be so careful with the taper crimp when using jacketed. You shouldn't overcrimp, of course, but at least the crimp won't be pushing through a thin plating and, upon firing, leaving a copper ring in your chamber (or barrel!).

    Not that it matters for IDPA, but you can push a jacketed bullet a lot harder.

    There is very little published data for plated bullets. The plated bullet manufacturers can't be bothered to test their product. So you load "somewhere between mid-range lead and mid-range jacketed" and "less than 1200 fps".

    I bought a few hundred Berry's 9mm bullets just to test. They shot very well but I have since migrated to Precision Delta. There's isn't enough of a savings to be bothered with babying the plated bullets.

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  7. SARDG

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    OP - Are you considering plated AND 124gr for a money savings? I ask, because a lot of IDPA, USPSA, and GSSF shooters are using 147s, and lately leaning toward jacketed - though at the last GSSF I saw some very beatiful plated bullets. :)

    With a bit faster powder and a 147gr you can easily make PF with ~880-900fps and have a very accurate soft shooter. I made up my 147 load for accuracy out to 35yds, but can pllnk away at bleach bottle-size targets at 75yds all day long.
     
  8. shotgunred

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    I used to use rainier 's by the 10s of k's. They are somewhat local and used to give my club a good discount.

    Now their discount price is more expensive than PD list price.
     
  9. Kentguy

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    APERS,

    I have tested a 9mm load using 124g using "Berry's" PRN bullets over top W231 and tested using both my G17 & G19 on this load. I do like this bullet/powder combo, they shot very well (good accuracy) from both a gun rest and standing free hand positions out to 25 yards. Good target round. I have since switched to using 124g FMJ from Precision Delta for all my target loads.

    The only other place where I still currently use plated bullets is in a 38 special load - I use "Rainier" PRN bullets. Here I have tested this bullet over top of; W231, Bullseye, H.Universal and again this is a great target round.

    I have never found them hard to work with or had to go through any special procedures in loading or testing them. Find your powder, start low and work your way up... you know the drill.

    I hope this helps.
     
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  10. fredj338

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    The only issue w/ plated is price & they are a bit more finicky to reload. Get the crimp wrong & accuracy goes to hell. You can easily run Berry's or Ranier to 1200fps w/ exc accuracy.
     
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  11. unclebob

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    One of the reasons why some people like to use plated bullets is when we shoot at steel targets. The only real big problem is just don’t over crimp. You just want a very faint line on the bullet were the mouth of the case was or no line at all.
     
  12. F106 Fan

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    I'm not a fan of jacketed bullets on steel either. So, I use lead. In fact, the only jacketed pistol bullets I make are for my grandson and that is only because of an edict from the powers that be stating that he will not shoot lead bullets.

    But I can see where plated bullets have an application for indoor shooting and steel.

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  13. SARDG

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    You have to actually HIT the steel before it's a problem, Bob. :rofl:
     
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    Yes I have been known to miss a few.:crying: Sometimes more than a few.:shocked: It all depends if Jerk decides to follow me to the match.:steamed: Way to many Elmer Keith days.:faint:
     
  15. scccdoc

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    Me too. But the PD FMJ's aren't as "pretty" as the Berry's! :cool:
     
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    I have not had really any problems with Rainier Bullets. Don't crimp them hard and all of these style of bullets say don't go over 1200 fps. Keep them below 1200 fps they shoot fine.

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    I figured you'd bring up MY performance at the last GSSF. I plan to redeem myself this coming weekend in Mobile and actually hit the steel myself. See you there I suppose?

    Had to look up Elmer Keith, his exploits being a little before my time. Who knew? :embarassed:
     
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    Very true. But when I get my orders of 3000 Montana Gold jacketed bullets and run my fingers through them, I feel like Midas. :)
     
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    It was on the back of my mind. But being the outstanding gentleman that I am.:whistling:Did not what to add salt to the wounds. Yep, will be there along with Dan, Don, Pete, Jim The group I travel with and James. Shoot and ROing Friday, Saturday and Sunday.
     
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    unclebob and SARDG, say hello on Saturday. Look out for the 'Retired Met Police' cap