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Discussion in 'Black Rifle Forum' started by M&P15T, Nov 21, 2012.

  1. M&P15T

    M&P15T Beard One

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    These are supposedly some SOF troopers training. Take a look at their AR/attachments, they look really different from anything else I have seen.

    Are these not really SOF troopers? Look at the quad rails, I have never seen .mil folks using anything that long.

    I see Elcan, Eotech, PEQ-15s.....what else do ya'll see?

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  2. mjkeat

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    Those look to be Daniel Defense RIS II's which are often used by special operations. In fact I believe they were the intended market.

    As far as what unit, if any, they belong too, who knows.
     


  3. Presscheck40

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    I hate vertical forgrips and the cat on the far side is not even utilizing his optics.
    And in my line of work one weapon is zero and two is one. I see no sidearms.

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  4. K. Foster

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    I’d say it’s real training, somewhere They look properly equipped, helmets, body armor. The one muzzle you can see has a blank firing device (the little orange thing). The second guy has regular work gloves hanging on his carabineer, that’s what I used to do. On the negative side, they don’t have pistols.
    Instead of worrying about whether or not they’re actually training, why don’t you go get some training.:supergrin:
     
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  5. M&P15T

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    I was simply interested in the ARs they were using, they looked different from anything I have seen .mil types using.

    I was never questioning whether they were actually training, which they obviously are.
     
  6. K. Foster

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    Noted. I meant to add a smiley face to show I was just teasing. It’s there now.
     
  7. MrMurphy

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    Buried in the X-files
    Elcans on rifles normally = Canadian Army.

    I haven't seen any on US troops except on belt-feds. The rails are longer than standard but SOF guys can get just about anything, having dealt with them quite a bit. Multicam doesn't mean much these days, half the Army is wearing it.

    No pistols, plate carriers, rifles are looking a little bare (no 203 or 320, one guy appears to be minus a PEQ-15). Couldn't say for sure.
     
  8. RyanNREMTP

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    Their pistols could be mounted on the front of their chest. Could be a police swat team as well.
     
  9. M&P15T

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    I didn't mention the lack of BUIS because I have seen that done by NSA, CIA, and SOF in the FOB.
     
  11. mvician

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    the one in the foreground is a M4 RIS II Mk18 variant
     
  12. M&P15T

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    I'm stunned by that revelation. Which does show real faith in modern optics, including the much-maligned Elcan Spectre DR.

    Isn't a Mk18 a shorter barrel, like around 10"? From the picture that looks like it's at least a 14.5", but I could be wrong. Those long rails really have my interest.
     
  13. bigmoney890

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    A lot of SF guys wear their sidearms on their left side, so when they drop their AR to the right side, they can draw from the left without interference
     
  14. M&P15T

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    It also looks as if one guy has a sling (single point, mounted to the rail), and the other guy does not.
     
  15. mjkeat

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    The MK18 RIS is 9.55". I run the 12 1/4" M4A1 RIS II on my 14.5" LW DD.

    It's not a single point sling. You can see the front attachment point on the rail. A single point mount to the rail would cause the muzzle to point up when hanging. It's a 2 point sling.
     
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  16. mvician

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    True, excuse me.......M4A1 SOPMOD Block II system variant
     
  17. M&P15T

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    Good Lord, of course it would. What an ignorantly incorrect observation on my part!!!:rofl::rofl:
     
  18. WayaX

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    This is a picture from the CNN article. Supposedly taken at Ft. Bragg. As to the accuracy...well, how much do you believe CNN?
     
  19. mjkeat

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    Then why would you even consider it a possibility?


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