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Pentagon Proof Mark?

Discussion in 'Glock Collector's Club' started by PettyOfficer, Feb 17, 2012.

  1. PettyOfficer

    PettyOfficer

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    Does the pentagon proof mark have a significant meaning?
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  2. PettyOfficer

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    I had searched 'proof marks', guess I didn't use the right terms.

    That thread was useless, nothing but speculation and smart alecks.
     
    Last edited: Feb 18, 2012
  3. MakeMineA10mm

    MakeMineA10mm * * * * Millennium Member Lifetime Member

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    It is a German/European means of signifying a polygonally-rifled barrel. My HK45 has it on the side of the barrel exposed through the ejection port when in battery also. Most, if not all, of my (Austrian) Glocks have it also. Over the last few years, Glock has dropped a lot of the European features (markings) for US-destined pistols. Austrian proofs went a long time ago, more recently the "US" suffix at the end of the serial number went, etc.
     
  4. BUmmedic

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    Sorry to revive an old thread, but since I just recently came across a bunch of stuff on the interwebs regarding these, what they meant, and if they referred to chamber support... here is an answer straight from Glock technical support:

    Pentagon = grade 5 steel
    Pentagon with a center dot = grade 6 steel

    Does not indicate anything regarding chamber support, and he said that chamber support was not changed from gen 3 to gen 4, which is something I've read a lot of people claiming. I don't have a gen 3 to check, but my gen 4 G22 seems to have much improved support from other older model barrels that I've found pics of.
     
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  5. mds1140

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    That's the best explanation of the pentagon I've heard, thanks for sharing.
     
  6. BUmmedic

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    Upon looking further into steel grades, it got way over my head as far as metalworking knowledge, and I did not find anything directly referencing "grade 5" or "grade 6" steel as it pertained to gun barrels. Suffice it to say, the pentagon with a dot indicates a higher grade steel.
     
  7. mds1140

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    Makes sense to me. I've noticed on my newer Glocks, with the dot...There is a mark on the breach face from contact with the barrel. My older non dots, have no breach face mark. Makes me believe the dot barrels may be slightly harder.
    Obviously I'm no expert, just observations. Your explanation makes sense. I never bought into the pentagon being a sign of polygonal rifling.
     
  8. HGxyz

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    deleted - wrong thread.
     
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  9. Firecop203

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    Don't know if it's true or not, but I read on another forum that the barrels with the pentagon and dot are rated for +P loads and the ones without the dots are not.
     
  10. 07amf

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    Just something I have observed in the last 15 years of using glocks; I have noticed all my Blue Label guns have the Dot Pentagon. Red labels, just the Pentagon. No dot.
     
  11. Paul53

    Paul53 Geezer Boomer

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    How can I get steel that at least got a GED?
     
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  12. GlockFan7

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    I've been around Glocks for quite a few years, but didn't really pay any attention to them. I've only been an owner for the last few. I've checked several of my Glocks from Red, White and Blue labels, all had the Dot Pentagon. I'm just too lazy to check the others. I suspect they're the same though.
     
  13. GlockFan7

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    None of my Gen4 Glocks were manufactured prior to 2012. The dot could be something just that simple, just like new Gen4s not being marked with "MBS".