Given that I'm at the airport and my flight is delayed, why not yet another Pascal's Wager thread. We still see people advancing the wager on a regular basis. Here are 2 examples from the past day or so. In brief the wager is: (1) God exists or does not exist. (2) you must choose a side. (3) if God exists and you bet against existence then everything is lost. (4) if God does not exist and you bet on existence, then nothing is lost. The problem with (1) is that it is a false dilemma -- it does not consider that there could be other non-Christian gods. What if the Greek or Norse or ... or Islamic god is real. Do you find the wager a compelling argument that you should give a shout out to the God of Islam while on your death bed? Or even Geko45's scenario with an unrevealed God of Critical Thinking who rewards those who reject all man made gods, and punishes those who believed in any god. The problem with (4) is that it's obviously not true that nothing is lost (pardon the double negative). The observant Christian would have lost thousands (more likely many thousands) of dollars supporting the myth, as well as their valuable time. Then add to that the countless and long forgotten opportunities lost. For example our own Kingarthurhk has turned down a promotion that would have come with the expectation (or perhaps requirement) of working on the Sabbath. Another often overlooked point is that if your rejection of the god hypothesis is based on critical thinking, it would not be easy to just decide to believe, and I think we can agree that one could not bluff their way past God. Even if strongly motivated do you think you could change what you truly believe out of fear? So if you were told that you have 30 seconds to truly believe that unicorns exist, or a horrible fate awaits your loved ones, could you make yourself believe? -ArtificialGrape Almost forgot, I fully concede point (3) in the case of the Christian God. And a few more examples... Wanna kill these ads? We can help!