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Para Ordnance Rebirth?

Discussion in '1911 Forums' started by Tiro Fijo, Jan 19, 2013.

  1. Tiro Fijo

    Tiro Fijo

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    Scuttlebutt on the Internet is that they have switched from cast frames to forged recently on their single stacks. Also, that they are offering the Ion Bond finish. Maybe they're turning over a new leaf as they have moved to the States and their founder died. :dunno:

    http://www.para-usa.com/new/product_new.php
     
  2. News a 11...

    Para makes changes...

    Still doesn't build as nice a gun as Springfield...

    :whistling:
     


  3. Tiro Fijo

    Tiro Fijo

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    I don't know as I have not seen these new models and I will wage money you haven't either, which is what this thread is about and not the old Para stuff.

    Para was bought by the Freedom Group who has purportedly dumped a lot of money into new eqpmt. Perhaps this is the source of the Remington 1911's now as they both now have the same parent co.
     
  4. faawrenchbndr

    faawrenchbndr DirtyThirty fan CLM

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    The problem with Para had been the QUALITY of the components
    and the FITTING of those components, not what the components were made of.

    You can put a pig in a dress, but it's still a pig.
     
  5. Rinspeed

    Rinspeed JAFO

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    No, actually it has been all three.
     
  6. I know a few things about fitting out a nice, reliable 1911 and unless they dumped their entire parts supplier chain and fired all the folks they've had building the guns they're not going to significantly change anything.

    I've yet to run into anyone in the real world who's had a para gun which ran properly out of the box. Single stack or double stack.

    But lets see... Freedom Group...

    Bushmaster (borderline ****), DPMS (Didn't Pass Military Spec), Marlin (Completely destroyed their QC after acquisition) etc.

    About the only company they own which produces a class leading product is AAC.

    So you can get a para, or you can get a Springer, and have access to the best customer service in the business and a pistol that'll run well right out of the box, and if it doesn't the SACS will make it work like a swiss watch and have it back before you know it.

    A good friend had a Para he bought as a carry gun. Piece of crap and Para didn't really seem to care. He sold it and got an officer size S&W of some sort. Likes it alot.
     
  7. bac1023

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    It wasn't the cast frame that was the issue, it was the cast slide and other poor parts quality and fitting.
     
  8. zhix

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    No more Para guns for me, ever. As already mentioned any changes in the product by Freedom Group typically do not inspire confidence, and there other other various brands of 1911s with better quality for the money.
     
  9. faawrenchbndr

    faawrenchbndr DirtyThirty fan CLM

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    Good point,......they did do a great job ruining Bushmaster!
     
  10. ilgunguygt

    ilgunguygt Enslaved in IL

    As soon as para makes a gun with 1911 internals then I will call them a 1911 manufacturer. A friend bought a Para-GI. It had a 9lb trigger. Ordered some parts, when to do some trigger work on it and found out that you cant even replace the sear spring with a colt or standard 1911 part. Its proprietary. Ended up taking a dremel to the stock spring and doing some other tweaking. Got the trigger down to 5lbs. Still, I wouldnt buy one.
     
  11. Buzzo

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    I paid good money for a Para Warthog a few years ago, and that thing was the biggest piece of junk I have ever had my hands on. I will never own another guy made by those clowns
     
  12. MD357

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    Yep.... in addition to proprietary parts like the "power" extractor or whatever the heyall that thing was.
     
  13. RF7126

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    First time I've ever had to repair a pistol was when that thing blew apart....
     
  14. Trey83

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    It's a shame they don't make a more reliable pistol. I really like their LDA trigger system.
     
  15. BamaBud

    BamaBud NRA Life Member

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    The PXT is gone.

    They decided to discontinue the power extractor a while back. All their 2013 lineup has a new (old) extractor.
     
  16. High Altitude

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    I know someone who bought a para, it didn't work right and para would not cover the shipping to send it back to them to fix it.

    I don't buy ANY firearm from ANY manufacture that won't cover shipping on a warranty repair.