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PA State Police may go 45 acp

Discussion in 'General Glocking' started by triaxle, Nov 13, 2012.

  1. triaxle


    Dec 22, 2006
    Pulled over today for DOT check and when finished got on the subject of Glocks which they have G 37 in the Gap. The officer said they are testing G21 in 45acp right now . and he did not care for the old Beretta 40 cal they had . The officer was courteous .Every thing was good on my spot check.
  2. diamondd2


    Apr 23, 2010
    Blah, blah, blah, who gives a crap what the PA state police are doing

  3. DFin


    Mar 22, 2008
  4. BuckyP

    BuckyP Lifetime Member

    Feb 1, 2005
    I do.

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  5. Police305


    Oct 26, 2012
    Miami, FL
    Here in miami, most officers carry G21's or G22's.
  6. SJ 40

    SJ 40

    Jan 17, 2011
    Ammunition cost,just maybe the reason for the switch. SJ 40
  7. AKR

    AKR GAP'r

    Sep 24, 2007
    Loveland, CO
    I just checked ammo prices on, one of my sources with good prices. I can't do direct comparisons due to differences in the stock for GAP and ACP, but I can't really see any significant differences in the ammo prices. In some cases, you could say the .45 ACP costs more.
  8. cowboywannabe

    cowboywannabe you savvy?

    Jan 26, 2001
    how many suppliers for gap ammo and how many suppliers for acp ammo?
    Last edited: Nov 13, 2012
  9. Bruce M

    Bruce M

    Jan 3, 2010
    S FL
    Yes it is interesting to some of us - thanks for posting. Glad the stop went well.
  10. Henry's Dad

    Henry's Dad woof, woof

    What makes you so bitter toward PSP? Some pending state charges you want to tell us about?:dunno:

    OP, thanks for the info. Nice to hear my state tax dollars are going toward sensible spending for a change (even if I am a G23 man myself).
  11. PattonT


    May 22, 2010
    South East
    They have been saying they are switching for about two years now. I don't foresee it happening. I will say that agencies that seek the CALEA accreditation can't have service weapons older than 4 yrs so if they update to new handguns they may as well switch.
  12. di11igaf

    di11igaf ibew

    Jun 25, 2012
    Here in DE (pa neighbor) the state police carry 229's in 357 SIG.
  13. diamondd2


    Apr 23, 2010

    Nothing toward the PSP in particular. I just cant stand that everytime some PD talks about switching calibers everyone wants to jump on the band wagon. LIke the PD is the final word on caliber. It's usually just because they got a new captain or cheif and they need to justify their job.

    And come on. They are "testing" a G21 45acp? LIke the 21 or the 45acp has not been proven over an over already.
    Last edited: Nov 14, 2012
  14. ca survivor

    ca survivor

    Dec 25, 2011
    what department uses the G21s ? or is individual officer choice ? thanks
  15. jdw174


    Oct 31, 2012
    West Tennessee
    As a retired member of the PSP, I too am interested in this. Without going into a history of PSP firearms, I can only say that they "test" everything they get, from flashlights to handcuffs, although as with any gov't agency, the low bidder usually gets the gravy.
    They were getting ready to switch from .357 revolvers to autoloaders just prior to my retirement. As a firearm instructor, I was asked for my input. Knowing they would never go for a SA auto and knowing they would want at least a DA first round, I suggested they strongly consider the SIG. Like anything else I pushed for, they went with a Beretta instead in .40 S&W. I didn't consider a Glock as they had already declared them as not authorized even for off duty carry due to their "lack of a safety". (Strangely enough, they were issued to the SERT team).

    I had the opportunity to fire the issue Beretta after I retired when my replacement instructor called me and asked if I'd meet him at the range. He brought his duty gun, along with issue ammo. I'd never seen such a piece of crap. The trigger was absolutely abominable. So hard to pull that neither of us (both decent shots BTW) could hardly get decent hits at 25 yards. He'd wanted to adjust his sights and was told no, they'd "been adjusted before issue". WTF????? Apparently someone came to their senses eventually, and the Glocks were issued.

    As for providing ammo, unless they've changed (and I seriously doubt it), they may be issuing one box. No further ammo is issued for practice. Practice ammo comes out of the trooper's pocket....if they practice at all. During my 25 years, most didn't.
  16. cowboy1964


    Sep 4, 2009
    You could also say there are a lot more choices.
  17. Did someone pee in your cornflakes this morning?