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PA castle doctrine- there'a a vote tomorrow!

Discussion in 'Pennsylvania Glockers Club' started by tat2guy, Dec 10, 2007.

  1. tat2guy

    tat2guy NRA Life Member Silver Member

    This PAFOA alert is forwarded on behalf of our fine partners the Allegheny County Sportsmen's League and the Pennsylvania Sportsmen's Association:

    Please read and take action!

    The text of HB641 (Castle Doctrine) can be found at:

    http://www.legis.state.pa.us/CFDOCS...d=0&billBody=H&billTyp=B&billNbr=0641&pn=0702

    This alert can be discussed on our forum at:

    http://www.pafoa.org/forum/alerts-1...y-committe-action-hb-641-castle-doctrine.html

    Daniel Pehrson
    Founder & President
    Pennsylvania Firearm Owners Association
    http://www.pafoa.org/

    ************************************

    Allegheny County Sportsmen's League, Inc.
    Pennsylvania Sportsmen’s Association

    PRIORITY: High

    December 10, 2007

    ***LEGISLATIVE ACTION ALERT***

    Issue: Pending Judiciary Committee Action – House Bill 641

    On Tuesday December 11, the House Judiciary Committee will finally consider legislation that will help to reduce violent crime in Pennsylvania. HB 641 (Castle Doctrine) by Rep. Cappelli.

    The bill will not make it out of committee unless you generate support. Please contact the members of the Judiciary Committee and let them know that you support this legislation.

    HB 641 does not change the use of force requirements. What it does do is eliminate the honest citizens duty to retreat when confronted by violent criminals and provide honest citizens with legal protection if they defend themselves from criminals. It contains an anti-carjacking provision that will change state law so that if a criminal illegally and forcibly enters an occupied vehicle, the presumption is that he intends to harm the passengers. Protections against civil actions are also provided, should your assailant or his relatives sue you for harming the criminal when you defended yourself.

    This legislation has been enacted in nearly twenty states and is pending in even more.

    Killers are more concerned about law-abiding citizens than police having firearms. This was proven in the Wright-Rossi study and more recently by the example that the Columbine killers (Dylan and Klebold) "shared opposition to a bill in the state legislature that would have made it easier to carry concealed weapons" (NYT, 6/29/1999).

    The Pennsylvania Legislative Black Caucus, in collusion with Ed Rendell and others, walked off the floor of the house this past Wednesday demanding the surrender of OUR gun rights and vowing not to return unless GUN CONTROL bills are passed. Rendell, Operation Ceasefire, and the usual antigun mayors will be gathering in Harrisburg Monday 10 Dec 2007 to demand MORE gun control. They will be lobbying the Judiciary committee in opposition to this legislation and our right to be free from unwarranted persecution by anti-gun authorities.

    It is up to each of us once again to see to it that this legislation is passed into law and it all begins on Tuesday the 11th of December.

    Members of the House Judiciary Committee are listed below (Please focus on the Pro-gun and Undecided legislators once again):

    **Representatives listed below are Committee Leadership

    State Representative Thomas R. Caltagirone (D-127), Majority Chairman
    106 Irvis Office Building
    PO Box 202127
    Harrisburg, PA 17120-2127
    (717) 787-3525
    Fax: (717) 772-5401
    tcaltagi@pahouse.net

    State Representative Ron Marsico (R-105), Minority Chairman
    218 Ryan Office Building
    PO Box 202105
    Harrisburg, PA 17120-2105
    (717) 783-2014
    Fax: (717) 705-2010
    rmarsico@pahousegop.com

    State Representative Daylin Leach (D-149), Secretary
    109A East Wing
    PO Box 202149
    Harrisburg, PA 17120-2149
    (717) 783-9114
    Fax: (717) 787-0861
    dleach@pahouse.net

    **Representatives listed below are Pro 2nd Amendment

    State Representative Deberah Kula (D-52)
    104A East Wing
    PO Box 202052
    Harrisburg, PA 17120-2052
    (717) 772-1858
    Fax: (717) 780-4784
    dkula@pahouse.net

    State Representative Joseph A. Petrarca (D-55)
    220 Irvis Office Building
    PO Box 202055
    Harrisburg, PA 17120-2055
    (717) 787-5142
    Fax: (717) 705-2014
    jpetrarc@pahouse.net

    State Representative Jesse White (D-46)
    102B East Wing
    PO Box 202046
    Harrisburg, PA 17120-2046
    (717) 783-6437
    jwhite@pahouse.net

    State Representative Tom C. Creighton (R-37)
    400 Irvis Office Building
    PO Box 202037
    Harrisburg, PA 17120-2037
    (717) 772-5290
    Fax: (717) 783-1904
    tcreight@pahousegop.com

    State Representative Craig A. Dally (R-138)
    211 Ryan Office Building
    PO Box 202138
    Harrisburg, PA 17120-2138
    (717) 783-8573
    Fax: (717) 705-1849
    cdally@pahousegop.com

    State Representative John R. Evans (R-5)
    B12 Main Capitol Building
    PO Box 202005
    Harrisburg, PA 17120-2005
    (717) 772-9940
    Fax: (717) 772-7099
    jevans@pahousegop.com

    State Representative Will Gabig (R-199)
    410 Irvis Office Building
    PO Box 202199
    Harrisburg, PA 17120-2199
    (717) 772-2280
    Fax: (717) 705-2012
    wgabig@pahousegop.com

    State Representative Glen R. Grell (R-87)
    404 Irvis Office Building
    PO Box 202087
    Harrisburg, PA 17120-2087
    (717) 783-2063
    Fax: (717) 772-8418
    ggrell@pahousegop.com

    State Representative Beverly Mackereth (R-196)
    7 East Wing
    PO Box 202196
    Harrisburg, PA 17120-2196
    (717) 783-2655
    Fax: (717) 772-9869
    bmackere@pahousegop.com

    State Representative Todd Rock (R-90)
    162A East Wing
    PO Box 202090
    Harrisburg, PA 17120-2090
    (717) 783-5218
    Fax: (717) 260-6505
    trock@pahousegop.com

    State Representative Katie True (R-41)
    143A East Wing
    PO Box 202041
    Harrisburg, PA 17120-2041
    (717) 705-7161
    Fax: (717) 705-1946
    ktrue@pahousegop.com

    State Representative Tina Pickett (R-110)
    155A East Wing
    PO Box 202110
    Harrisburg, PA 17120-2110
    (717) 783-8238
    Fax: (717) 705-1949
    tpickett@pahousegop.com

    State Representative John E. Pallone (D-54)
    325 Irvis Office Building
    PO Box 202054
    Harrisburg, PA 17120-2054
    (717) 783-1819
    Fax: (717) 772-9984
    jpallone@pahouse.net

    State Representative Don Walko (D-20)
    121 Irvis Office Building
    PO Box 202020
    Harrisburg, PA 17120-2020
    (717) 787-5470
    Fax: (717) 783-0407
    dwalko@pahouse.net

    State Representative Sean M. Ramaley (D-16)
    323 Main Capitol Building
    PO Box 202016
    Harrisburg, PA 17120-2016
    (717) 787-4444
    sramaley@pahouse.net

    State Representative Carl W. Mantz (R-187)
    53B East Wing
    PO Box 202187
    Harrisburg, PA 17120-2187
    (717) 787-3017
    Fax: (717) 772-9869
    cmantz@pahousegop.com

    **Representatives listed below are Uncommitted on these issues

    State Representative Kate Harper (R-61)
    149A East Wing
    PO Box 202061
    Harrisburg, PA 17120-2061
    (717) 787-2801
    Fax: (717) 787-2022
    kharper@pahousegop.com

    State Representative Bernie O'Neill (R-29)
    B13 Main Capitol Building
    PO Box 202029
    Harrisburg, PA 17120-2029
    (717) 705-7170
    Fax: (717) 783-3278
    boneill@pahousegop.com

    **Representatives listed below are dedicated Anti 2nd Amendment Fanatics

    State Representative Kathy Manderino (D-194)
    125 East Wing
    PO Box 202194
    Harrisburg, PA 17120-2194
    (717) 787-1254
    Fax: (717) 780-4770
    kmanderi@pahouse.net

    State Representative Lisa Bennington (D-21)
    6A East Wing
    PO Box 202021
    Harrisburg, PA 17120-2021
    (717) 705-7011
    Fax: (717) 780-4761
    lbenning@pahouse.net

    State Representative Dan Frankel (D-23)
    217 Irvis Office Building
    PO Box 202023
    Harrisburg, PA 17120-2023
    (717) 705-1875
    Fax: (717) 705-2034
    dfrankel@pahouse.net

    State Representative Harold James (D-186)
    317 Irvis Office Building
    PO Box 202186
    Harrisburg, PA 17120-2186
    (717) 787-9477
    Fax: (717) 787-7517
    hjames@pahouse.net

    State Representative Greg Vitali (D-16)
    103B East Wing
    PO Box 202166
    Harrisburg, PA 17120-2166
    (717) 787-7647
    Fax: (717) 705-2089
    gvitali@pahouse.net

    State Representative Jewell Williams (D-197)
    101 Irvis Office Building
    PO Box 202197
    Harrisburg, PA 17120-2197
    (717) 772-2004
    Fax: (717) 787-2284
    jwilliam@pahouse.net

    State Representative Chelsa Wagner (D-22)
    109 Irvis Office Building
    PO Box 202022
    Harrisburg, PA 17120-2022
    (717) 783-1582
    Fax: (717) 780-4755
    cwagner@pahouse.net

    State Representative Bryan R. Lentz (D-161)
    106B East Wing
    PO Box 202161
    Harrisburg, PA 17120-2161
    (717) 787-8574
    Fax: (717) 780-4777
    blentz@pahouse.net

    The grassroots organizations observing and tracking this bill are listed below:
    Allegheny County Sportsmen's League (ACSL),
    Pennsylvania Federation of Sportsmen's Clubs (PFSC),
    Pennsylvania Sportsmen's Association (PSA),
    National Rifle Association (NRA),
    Gun Owners of America (GOA),
    Second Amendment Sisters (SAS),
    Pennsylvania Rifle and Pistol Association (PR&PA),
    Pennsylvania Gun Collectors Association (PGCA)
    Lehigh Valley Firearms Coalition (LVFC),
    Philadelphia Federation of Sportsmen's Club,
    Pennsylvania Gun Owners Association (PGOA)
    Unified Sportsmen of Pennsylvania (USP)
    Pennsylvania State Fish & Game Protective Association,
    The Pink Pistols
    OpenCarry.org
    Pennsylvania Firearm Owners Association (PAFOA)
    National Shooting Sports Foundation (NSSA)
    Western Pennsylvania 30 Caliber League, Inc

    **(FOAC) Firearms Owners Against Crime records all votes related to firearms and the constitutional connections thereof. Mitigating factors are taken into consideration when reviewing these votes such as presenting on record concerns during debate on legislation and will be so noted in the record for each legislator.

    We DEEPLY appreciate your patience and help with this very important step forward for our Freedoms and we will do our BEST to keep you informed on the developments ahead!

    Respectfully,

    Kim Stolfer
    Legislative Committee, Chairman
    Allegheny County Sportsmen's League
    E-Mail -- activist@fyi.net
    Website -- www.acslpa.org
    (412) 221-3346, Home Phone
    (412) 257-1099, Home Fax

    Harry Schneider
    Legislative Committee, Chairman
    Pennsylvania Sportsmen's Association
    psa@pagunlaws.com

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  2. turbonatr

    turbonatr Senior Member Millennium Member

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  3. tat2guy

    tat2guy NRA Life Member Silver Member

    Representative Caltagirone, head of the House Judiciary Committee gave in to pressure from certain Democratic members of the House yesterday and opted to pull HB641 from consideration by the committee today as previously reported.

    From the reports we've heard it appears as though the usual suspects from Philadelphia involved in constantly trying to infringe on our right to keep and bear arms have thrown yet another temper tantrum and threatened to take their ball and go home if this legislation was considered.

    The good news is that it appears Representative Cappelli is attempting to force the issue by adding HB641 as an amendment to Senate Bill 436 in an attempt to have the bill debated.

    Please see Representative Cappelli's website for in depth information on his actions regarding this bill:

    http://www.repcappelli.com/?sectionid=16&sectiontree=16&itemid=562

    It is important now that firearm owners do two things:

    1) Contact your representatives and politely, but strongly voice your support for HB641. If you do not know who your representatives are you can find our by visiting:

    http://www.pafoa.org/politicians/

    2) Contact Representative Caltagirone's office and politely voice your extreme displeasure with his capitulation to the minority members of the House by withdrawing HB641 from consideration. His contact information is as follows:

    106 Irvis Office Building
    PO Box 202127
    Harrisburg, PA 17120-2127
    (717) 787-3525
    Fax: (717) 772-5401
    tcaltagi@pahouse.net

    As always this issue can be discussed on our message boards at:

    http://www.pafoa.org/forum/alerts-1...y-committe-action-hb-641-castle-doctrine.html