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P40,000 for 33 parts?

Discussion in 'Band of Glockers' started by antediluvianist, Jun 25, 2004.

  1. As we all know, the Glock 17 has 33 parts (although some are small parts-assemblies, but let's not quibble.)

    Does anybody know if there is any semiauto that has fewer parts (let's limit this to reasonably reputable production guns, not the WWII Liberator .45 single-shot or zip guns or that sort of thing)?

    It sure looks pretty empty inside a Glock 17. Can there be an "emptier" gun? The Beretta 92fs has, as far as I know, 74 parts - more than twice as many as a Glock 17. How low can the number of parts go?
     
  2. FAlvar

    FAlvar I love Iya

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    Sa Kanluran
    1911A1:

    Front to back:

    Bushing
    slide
    bbl
    recoil spring
    rs plug
    extractor
    firing pin
    fp spring
    fp stop
    hammer
    thumb safety
    sear
    disconnector
    sear pin
    hammer strut
    grip safety
    sear spring
    MSH pin
    MSH plunger
    MSH retaining pin
    MSH
    mainspring
    grip screws x 4
    grips
    safety plunger
    safety plunger spring
    slide stop
    trigger

    I counted 31.... Did I miss anything?
     


  3. 4eyes

    4eyes Provocateur

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    redneck heaven
    Hammer pin and grips X2 for 33

    plunger tube, pins and spring
     
  4. Saruman

    Saruman I carry a GLOCK

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    Middle Earth
  5. Alexii

    Alexii Janeway Forever

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    The front and rear sights?:)
     
  6. Alexii

    Alexii Janeway Forever

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    Yes, the grip assembly alone has 10 parts (4x grip screws, 4x grip washers, 2x grip panels). A good tradeoff for allowing a myriad of grip changes from plastic to rubber to wood and even carbon fiber.;f

    Beretta's high number of parts does not, by collective experience of the folks at Berettaforum, equal the amount of potential problems of the gun. Even the much maligned locking block lasts an average of 30,000 rounds before it needs replacement.

    PS. Nice tag line, Ante.;z
     
  7. batangueno

    batangueno Shock Resist

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    more 1911 parts

    ejector
    ejector pins
    mag catch
    mag catch spring
    barrel link
    barrel link pin
     
  8. Guess ko lang, but I think the Taurus PT145 and the Kel-tec P11 have less parts than a Glock.

    Pare-pareho lang namang striker fired yang tatlo, so basic mechanical components are just about the same.

    Yung HS2000 me grip safety pakasi, so siguradong mas maraming parts yun
     
  9. revo

    revo

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    Hence one of the reasons why we buy Glocks is that
    it is reliable by design.

    A system with less moving parts is inherently more
    reliable.

    That's an engineering principle, you know.
     
  10. julianz

    julianz toxic master

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    These are the # of parts i found in some manuals:
    Taurus PT111 - 53
    Taurus PT92 - 68
    CZ 75 - +/-64 depending on the version
    HS2K-SA-XD - 47
    HK usp 9/.40 - 52
    HK usp 45 - 45

    And you guys are right Glock is the only pistol with few parts that works.
     
  11. Sigs
    239-53
    229-55
    226&228-55
    225-54
    220-55-60 (depends on American or European model)

    Don't have the figure for the 232
     
  12. Alexii

    Alexii Janeway Forever

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    You know-- if you guys choose a gun with the higher number of parts, the less you'll pay for unit price per part.;f
     
  13. Valor1

    Valor1 Pro Paingiver

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    ;z
    it's like buying another plastic gun (STI/SVI)
     
  14. jasonub

    jasonub

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    snub nosed revolvers and derringers have fewer parts;)
     
  15. Possibly, but the question was "Does anybody know if there is any semiauto that has fewer parts"

    In any case, I sold my Glock 17. Nothing wrong with it - it works as advertised - quite reliable. Just too light a gun for my arthritis. A 40 ounce S&W 686+ ( which is twice as heavy as the Glock) has been more appropriate. But, hey, for a soldier or policeman who has to carry a sidearm around all day, a Glock would be OK.
     
  16. jasonub

    jasonub

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