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+P+ in M&P pro?

Discussion in 'General Firearms Forum' started by ScottMn, May 19, 2012.

  1. ScottMn

    ScottMn

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    I assume it's just fine to shoot +P+ in and M&P pro but would like to double check with you fella's before taking it to the range.

    thanks........
     
  2. Bruce M

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    I would doubt it would be a problem but I might want to glance through the owner's manual.
     

  3. blastfact

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    In general terms Smith says " No +P+ " But none of my Smith's have ever complained. :) Be them revolvers or semi auto's.

    I have a new M&P 9mm Talo FS. And it's been eating over book reloads with ease.

    User Beware!
     
  4. bac1023

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    I doubt it would be an issue.

    However, why somebody would want to shoot +P+ is beyond me. Its not even an SAAMI recognized loading.

    Its a stupid gimmick as far as I'm concerned.
     
  5. TxGlock9

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    I have read this as well. Some companies will brand their ammunition as +P+ when in actuality they are equal to other company's +P loads.

    Also the M&P is designed around the 40S&W around. I don't see why you couldn't use +P+ 9mm.
     
  6. countrygun

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    If you think you need the +P+ in a 9mm, get a bigger gun
     
  7. bac1023

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    Exactly my point

    +P+ is a marketing ploy, through and through.
     
  8. mr00jimbo

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    As previously stated, +p+ is not even regulated. I think that it just means, out of spec use at your own risk. +p is a different story.
     
  9. Cole125

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    If you have a gun that can handle hot loads, you are getting the most out of it by loading it with the most powerful self defense ammo you can get.
     
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  10. countrygun

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    So you don't see a problem with me using my S&W 58 .41 magnum with full loads, like I would use elk hunting, instead of loading my model 29 with .44 specials?

    I realize that is extreme and you qualified with "self defense" but that definition is not too well defined and open to interpretation. I might as well add that the increase in pressure is exponential in return for the velocity, and because a load is marked +p+ does not guarantee that the bullet in the case will perform any better. or as well, as a better designed bullet in a lowly +p load,
     
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  11. CBennett

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    ^^^ 1000000% the CORRECT answer
     
  12. bac1023

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    Exactly.

    +P is regulated and is a recognized by the Sporting Arms & Ammunition Manufacturers Institute.

    +P+ is not.
     
  13. ShaneS

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    I question the +P designation. I think the +P ammo is just loaded with a powder that can achieve higher velocities at standard pressure.

    Major brand factory +P+ is probably just fine. I wouldn't touch foreign, off brand or gun show +P+ ammo with a stick.

    I wouldn't shoot a lot of +P+, but it probably won't hurt any modern pistol. I used to insist on +P 9mm ammo in my pistols but not sure it makes a difference anymore. I'm going to start using standard velocity ammo in my micro and compact 9mms to reduce wear and recoil and help with follow up shots.
     
  14. Z71bill

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    I agree with the prior comments --+P+ is mostly marketing.

    But a few years ago I bought a case of 124 grain JHP FEDERAL P9HS3G1 - which is +P+ :embarassed:

    The FPS & foot pounds of this ammo is rated less than some +P rounds. :dunno:

    It was just before ammo started drying up prior to the election - I wanted a cheap case of SD rounds to stick away for a rainy day.

    I doubt Federal will sell a round that is so powerful it will blow up a modern handgun in good condition. :whistling:

    I have over the last few years started to wonder why I wanted +P or +P+ ammo - MISTAKE is the only thing I can come up with - but live and learn.

    I still have the whole 1,000 rounds and figure if the S ever does HTF I will be glad I have it - I am 99.9999% sure it will shoot just fine out of my GEN3 G19 & S&W M&P.

    Maybe the next time I go to the range I will pop off a box just for fun.:supergrin:
     
  15. ShaneS

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    I bought a box of Federal +P+ ammo about 6 months ago to try. I was a little anxious to try it but read that some police use it.

    I didn't notice any difference in my Sig P229 than any other +P loading. Maybe I could tell a difference in my small M&P Shield and Kahr CW9 or CM9... but won't be trying.

    I think any modern full-size handgun would handle it fine.
     
  16. ShaneS

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    I can load ammo for pistols that is higher velocity but still below max pressure with Power Pistol. It can be done with other powders too.