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Over cleaning AR15s?

Discussion in 'Black Rifle Forum' started by themighty9mm, Jan 19, 2011.


  1. themighty9mm

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    Ok I get the AR15 can and does run dirty. Just needs to be lubed. Got that part. However, I am of the mind set of I prefer my stuff to be clean. Not to the point where I am taking every pin out such as a full detail clean, but a basic feild strip and clean as reasonably possible after every outting. I keep reading about people over cleaning the AR15 and how it is bad. So why is it bad? A PITA maybe but bad? How is it any worse than feild strip and clean a pistol after shooting it?
     

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    The only way you can clean an AR15 to the point where it is bad would be to use cleaners and brushes so agressive that you damage the finish or the chrome lining in the bore.
     

  3. themighty9mm

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    Thats kinda what I thought. I know from my berettas chrome lining is pretty tough, and would take a good deal of effort to mess up with a brass brush
     
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    Yeah, keep this in mind, for years overzealous armorers have been making troops clean their guns down to the microscopic level and I've never seen any problems that could be attributed to doing that, in 24 years of playing that game. However, there was this one time when the armorer was being over picky. But I lived in the barracks and he lived off post, so after a couple of unsuccessful attempts to turn in my rifle, I just went back to my room, set down the gun and chilled for a while. I wasn't going anywhere and I knew he'd eventually want to go home. Around 19:00 he gave up and came looking for me and said "just turn it in". :)
     
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    I wouldn't bother with the gas tube since more harm than good can come from it. Anything inside will blow out next time you use the rifle. The carbon build up behind the bolt is another place to not do any aggressive cleaning.
     
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    Lol I know exactly what you are talking about
     
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    Yea, I made an attempt one time after about 500 rounds or so. Stuck a pipe cleaner in there came up 100% clean decided I just wont bother with it again. Not sure what kinda aggressive cleaning people are doing to these guns to mess them up. A rag some q-tips, maybe a pipe cleaner and brass rod/brush. How aggressive can you get with those items?
    I use my rifle semi heavily, and am not always gental with it. I try to take care of it, but it does get used. At the end of the day when play is done. Time to clean. I have read several times about people saying to no over clean. What are people doing to over clean? Are they using chisles, or screwdrivers or something? If they are thinking you are going to screw up the barrel by a couple passes of a brass brush and rod, what is the bullet doing? Thats alot more force than I could ever dish out. Maybe they are talking about inside the receiver? If a rag is going to destroy the receiver is that really an item anybody wants to bet their life on? Or maybe are these reports just from people who just flat dont want to clean their tools? Not trying to be a smart ass just trying to figure out what they are talking about
     
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    I clean mine to almost new condition every time I fire it. Just because I like to take care of my stuff. Like the others, I don't bother with the gas tube. Not only does it blow out excess carbon, but I'm not too sure if enough of the pipe cleaner fibers coming loose in the tube could cause some kind of blockage in the gas system when you fire the rifle. Either way I don't bother with it. I to get all of the carbon off the bolt, and most of it from inside the bolt carrier. It helps that my bolt and carrier are chrome, so not much work involved there. Like I said, keep my tool taken care of, and they last just like any tool. I have a 6 year old Kimber that has a coupel thousand rounds through it, and it looks brand new. A couple people who really know guns looked at it once and asked me if I had just got it.
     
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    I've NEVER had a clean weapon fail on me!:whistling:
     
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    Don't use S/S brushes.
     
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    That's an unsubstantiated, implied causal relationship!
     
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    Only AR I keep clean is my goto AR. My others I only clean them after 1K rounds.
    I used to do fine cleaning. That got old quick as I learned about my AR's & what they can do. If I'm cleaning a AR now I just lightly use some cleaner, a rag, a chamber brush & the patch down the barrel. Takes me all of 10 minutes if I take my time. I have done it in 5 min.
     
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    Something in the back of my head feels funny if I have a dirty weapon sitting in the safe. It just doesnt work for me.
     
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    Most of the damage that I see is from carlessness or lack of knowledge. The more common damage that I see done....

    Incorrect / overly agressive carbon scraping, especially with certain carbon scraping tools. This usually pertains to the bolt and carrier.

    Damaging the throat or chamber area with cleaning rods, especially the steel USGI types, or with chamber brushes.

    Normal or correct cleaning is not an issue.
     
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    I had someone at the range comment that my AR15 had too much CLP in it. I found this odd.
     
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    If you over lube it in a normal US environment the rifle will only spit all the excess back at you.
    It can be messy but no harm done.
     
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    I believe that if you take care of your equipment your equipment will take care of you.Too clean? tom.:whistling:
     
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    It all depends on how you clean. Over-scraping, using multi-piece uncoated cleaning rods without a bore guide, and nicking the barrel crown are just a few examples of cleaning methods that will cause more harm than good. What matters is not how often you clean, but rather how smartly you clean.
     
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    I only give my AR’s a good cleaning after 1,000 rounds. In between trips to the range, I’ll run a patch down the barrel, wipeout the receiver, spray down the bolt and carrier with action cleaner, then I use compressed air to dry it and then I spray it down with CLP. Kind of like a whores bath.

    I never had any issues with this method and it never effected the accuracy.
     
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