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OT: Home Theater System

Discussion in 'Band of Glockers' started by VICARA, Jan 30, 2007.

  1. VICARA

    VICARA

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    Fellow Bogs, maiba naman tayo ng topic.
    I don't know about you guys but I'm also into home audio/video system; I just love watching good action/adventure movies in the comfort of my living room. Palibhasa, gurang na, hindi na mahilig manood sa labas specially if its like this winter in the low 30's. No, I'm not yet a part of extreme audiophiles spending fortunes on toys in their entertainment rooms. The brain of my system is an old ONKYO HT-R410 receiver(last time I checked, its already obsolete) I bought almost 2 years ago. Even with those bulky/heavy speakers, I was not a happy camper. Something is missing on my sound although it offers 100 watt per channel and in a supposedly 5.1 mode. I have an antiquated 52" Toshiba HiDef and a Samsung DVD-HD841 which are older than my receiver. Sale sa Costco last week so I picked up this Sony DVD that upscales movies from 720 to a 1080p resolution (still waiting for a winner of the HD-DVD/Blu-ray war). BTW, if basing on tech specs, I like to think I'm on the blu-ray camp but then again, Sony lost Betamax years ago, despite its superior specs.

    Anyway, balik sa kuwento. After much hesitation, I upgraded to Bose speakers, 5 small cubes and a subwoofer, thinking it will give me more high frequencies. Nope, the sound remains lifeless to me. Hinahanap ko yung kalansing ng nahuhulog na empty shells during a shooting scene. I just bought the complete set of Band of Brothers, and an old movie by Al Pacino/Robert Deniro called Heat and both has truck loads of spents shells flying. Meron sound effect pero kulang. O baka naman sira na tainga ko.

    Any thoughts on a good receiver? Is Yamaha any good? Sad to say, I cannot afford the highend Marantz, Harman Kardon, Denon and the like. Lets hear your experience setting up your home theater system. For US Bogs, do you shop at Fry's for your entertainment toys i.e. speakers, receivers, HDTVs, navigations, etc.?

    VA
     
  2. Wp.22

    Wp.22

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    Mine is out the box JVC HT set up hiram lang from my uncle 110v pa nga galing houston. As far as hearing those spent shells sa band of brothers, heat, underworld part 1 ok naman minsan worry ko nga sa sobrang lakas pag barilan eh mag complain sa pulis yung mga neighbor ko.
     


  3. toxic

    toxic

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    Impressive set up Boss Vic.

    Check out Pioneer's home theater system , mine is the HTZ 360 but mas malakas ang bigay ng volume ng HTS model ,pwede mo rin sya dagdagan ng speakers like the EX,HF and DS models(also fom pioneer)
    Then buy a plasma TV or LCD TV (pioneer and Sony are good choices)para ka nag nanood ng sine nun.
    to really enjoy the sound , you need to have a sound proof AV room (di ko alam tawag insulated yata yun)like the recording comapany rooms have).
     
  4. Allegra

    Allegra

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    Is it only me who enjoys pag meron audience participation pag nanuod ng movie?
    You know when the audience cheers when the cavalry comes , or screams pag muntik na makian ng dinosaur yung mga bata

    I end up sleeping halfway sa movie sa home theater :) but that's just me
     
  5. bagito

    bagito tanod

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    sony 46"LCD + bose lifestyle48 perfect combination:thumbsup:
     
  6. mtho

    mtho

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    Sir Vic,
    Yamaha makes great receivers, dami features lalo na yung equalizer nya. I have a friend who had an Onkyo and changed to yamaha when it became available a few years back. I think he even spent double on the onkyo than the yamaha.

    My dad has a denon on his bigger home theater. I have a yamaha on my sala. the denon is older and has separate amps. but with my smaller speakers and smaller place I couldn't tell the difference.
     
  7. Mang Danny

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    My gear was bought at Good Guys in 2003 (sarado na)
    Yamaha RXV-440 receiver
    Energy Connoisseur Series Speakers C1 left & right, CC3 for center.
    Yamaha Sub woofer 8" (Best Buy)
    Bose 141 for surround (Fry's)
    Monster Cable speaker wire (gauge 12)
    Sony DVP-S530D DVD player bought in 1998.
    Optical cable (fiber optic) for sound.

    Go to menu on your dvd player and turn on DTS. Use the optical cable from dvd to receiver. Do not use RCA patch cords for audio. The receiver should automatically detect what kind of sound is being sent to it via the optical cable (DTS, dolby digital, etc.).

    A good test disc is Eagles Farewell 1 Tour. It defaults to your DTS setting. Yung ibang disc, kailangan mo pang magpunta sa audio menu to choose DTS or Dolby Digital Or PCM.

    Enjoy your system!
     
  8. magister

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    prices of entry level yamaha, marantz, and denon av receivers should not be that far apart. the kind of amp that you buy will really depend on what your needs are. since you're in the US, i'd suggest you audition the av receivers with the speakers you intend to use them with so you know which one gives the sound you are looking for.

    am sorry but am not really a fan of bose. (though i have a pair of 301s series IV) there are a lot of better alternatives. marketing hype lang kasi for me yung bose e. if i were you i'd ditch the bose speakers and start all over.

    get a good amp, matching speakers (marami din entry level na maganda) and a sub. use good interconnects (wag yang monster cable. para din bose yan. overrated.)and if you still have cash left over, a good dvd player and lcd/plasma or projector system would round it all off. :)
     
  9. foxyyy

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    you can't go wrong with yamahas..they have mid-end and hi-end models to choose from that suits your budget. sound is never compromised whichever you choose.
     
  10. VICARA

    VICARA

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    mang danny, i will check my DTS setting tonight, that might be the problem. I think I dont have optical input although I have S-video and 4 composites.

    my movie collections are mainly actions and live concerts mostly from Hollywood video and Fry's. $5-$9 lang pag sales. Buti pa diyan sa Pinas, you have all the cheaper "goodies" available everywhere and can easily built up a DVD library. I picked up a couple when I was there but too bad I cannot carry them back to the US.

    my TV is one of those rear projection model but wide screen and capable of HiDef signals from Comcast. And linaw nga yung mga football/basketball games, kita mo buhok sa ilong pag na close up. I love watching Discovery, SciFi & History channels. If and when a tax refund is due this year, I might decide if I go for another 1911 or a Samsung LCD(or plasma) plus a Blu-ray player.

    magister, baka tama ka sa overhype na bose and monster cables but ang ganda ng tunog sa showroom. I remember I paid $100+ sa HDMI cable ko nun. Yes, mayron na rin akong DLP projector yung maliit na Olympus VP-1 and, its cool pag ginamit with the humungous viewing screen, parang sa sinehan na, but hazzle lang mag setup ng screen. Binili ko lang last May, ngayon, obsolete na rin. Kakainis nga, puro obsolete na toys ko.

    BTW, what are your movie collections? Action/Suspense/adventure lang huwag drama at horror flicks.
     
  11. gundog

    gundog senior gunner

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    i started out with bose speakers and onkyo but was never happy. then i replaced my receiver with a yamaha and got the B&W speakers with an Energy sub wooofer. my test comes from the first 5 minutes of the movie Saving Private Ryan. Have been very happy since :supergrin:
     
  12. Mang Danny

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    Vicara, I went to samsung & onkyo's website and yes you have optical ports on both kaya optical cable na lang ang kulang. Hindi ko lang maisip kung paano ang connection ng sub-woofer from onkyo to bose kasi sa DTS at dolby digital totally hiwalay ang sub frequencies (.1)at kailangan mo ng powered sub. Ang alam ko sa bose lahat ng galing sa amp (5 ch) nagpunta sa sub and then yung internal network ang nag-pahiwalay sa mga individual speakers.

    To fully enjoy HD, video should be YPbPr component input, kung wala ok na rin ang s-video.

    Wala naman akong maraming collection, kadalasan yung bargain sale sa fry's best buy at circuit city. Hilig ko rin ang mga concert kasi maski paulit-ulit hindi nakakasawa.

    gundog, +1 sa B&W speakers, kaso yung modelong gusto ko kasing mahal ng dalawang les baer.
     
  13. mtho

    mtho

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    Mang Danny,
    si gundog naka les baer din :animlol:
     
  14. bass one

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    Check out What Hi-Fi? magazines. They give credible reviews and take into consideration product prices. Personally, I have my sights on MK speakers. I Even e-mailed their sound engineers to ask for professional advise as to what model will be best for my room size and what cables to use. They were pretty accommodating. They even discouraged me from going for 6.1 or 7.1, which is what I was thinking then, and instead go for a good 5.1 set-up. Pioneer or Yamaha for receivers (as their price is not too steep).
     
  15. saki1611

    saki1611 BOG's #1611

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    mine is a harman-kardon 335, in 7.1, my speakers, a set (5.1) of definitive technology pro cinema 80, and added a pair of acoustic energy evo1 as front speakers, which is good in stereo mode audio. harman is good both for movies and music, but i would recommend yamaha if it's only dedicated for movies. yamaha is not that really good in music audio. in speakers i would recommend b&w, they're the best! it's quite expensive and the size doesn't match my place. i would also suggest that you invest much on speakers than amplifiers, amplis depreciate fast and change models almost twice a year. to have much life on the sounds get a good subwoofwer, the best is velodyne.
     
  16. revo

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    Damn..seryoso talaga kayo mga kapatid...I don't even watch TV anymore.
     
  17. batangueno

    batangueno Shock Resist

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    Vic, mas marami ka choice dyan sa states. Look for the older model Onkyo and Yamaha receivers. 7.1 na kasi bago ngayon kaya yung mga 5.1 mura na lang. Pioneer receiver ko ngayon pero sira na kaya naghahanap rin ako ng ipapalit.

    As what others have metioned overrated ang Bose. Look at the PSB speakers, that's what i have. Meron sila pang entry level and high end, so sa budget mo na lang magkakatalo. Subwoofers, velodyne like what saki said, yun din kasi gamit ko. :)

    My movie collection, most are for children (cartoons, disney, pixar, etc.), some are assorted action, scifi, and comedy movies.
     
  18. VICARA

    VICARA

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    okay guys, i will narrow down my search sa yamaha, mukhang maganda and feedback. Our CFO is happy too with his yamaha. but i might have to keep my bose a bit longer, equivalent ng isang Kimber din yun. Yung B&W speakers, mahal masyado, I have to renew my 'escort' license and do a month-long of moonlighting work at SanFran.;) (joke lang) hayy..so many toys, so many options.
    mang danny, tingnan ko yung optical ports sa weekend. s-video gamit ko pang nanonood ako via my projector but use direct HDMI to my TV not to my receiver. Mali ba yun? I'm happy with my video, its just the audio that i'm trying to improve.

    saki, i bet ang ganda ng harman-kardon mo. d'you have a sound proof entertainment room with that?

    gundog, what happened to your old onkyo/bose toy? na-liquidate ba and converted to a shooting rig?

    ang hirap kasi sa hilig na ganito, parang PC din, kabibili mo lang outmoded na.

    VA

    wala lang but show off your Audio/Video rig or your PC/home network setup..
     
  19. gundog

    gundog senior gunner

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    if you are interested my friend is selling his B&W front and back speakers and the middle speaker for a nice price. very good condition. he is keeping the B&W sub woofer which is good since i didnt like it personally. give me a buzz if you are interested.
     
  20. batangueno

    batangueno Shock Resist

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    Same friend ba yan na naghahanap ng barrel? Baka puede trade. :supergrin:

    AV Receiver ang kailangan ko ngayon.