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orielly on gun control. tonight on letterman

Discussion in 'Gun-Control Issues' started by kylet, Feb 12, 2013.

  1. kylet

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    did anyone watch it?

    he had some very cool things to say!
    encouraging to see his points being VERY direct and seemingly supported by letterman.

    He basically talked about federalizing all gun crimes. ALL gun crimes.

    im not sure how i feel about his registering all guns comment... mostly because i think its unrealistic. BUT regardless.. he made good points.
     
  2. countrygun

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    I'm sorry but I remember Bill's comments on guns before his apparent "conversion.

    Having him champion gun rights is like having Madonna championing chastity.
     


  3. kylet

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    He IS from texas...

    i could see him being an advocate
     
  4. RJ's Guns

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    Nor have I forgotten his prior comments on gun control. He pissed me off and I completely stopped watching his program because of it.

    Furthermore, I think that he is a conceited ass.

    RJ
     
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  5. Dawolf

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    Or as Clint Eastwood would say, "he is a legend in his own mind."
     
  6. I find it hard to take ANY tv personality seriously, no matter what their view is.
     
  7. 1gewehr

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    Both of those ideas are bad ones.
    Why are 'gun crimes' worse than other crimes? Is someone murdered with a firearm more dead than someone murdered with a hammer? Why would making them Federal offenses make any difference? (short answer; it wouldn't. The federal court system is even more screwed up than most.)
    Registering all guns and requiring background checks for all transfers will not stop a single murder or shooting, but will be a huge infringement on the rights of citizens. If you think that NICS is screwed up now, just wait and see what happens if THIS passes!
    If all firearms are registered, then it makes it really easy for the government to confiscate them. Historically confiscation ALWAYS happens. Maybe not this year or next year, but it WILL happen.

    My final point is that none of those measures will have any positive effect whatsoever on violent crime. If you think differently, PROVE IT! (remember, using only statistics for 'gun crime' is dishonest if violent crime goes up)
     
  8. BenjiEDF

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    Those are "cool ideas" :
    1.) Federalizing All Gun Crimes
    2.) Federal Registry
    :faint:
    You haven't thought any of this through have you? ... WOW :wow:
     
  9. jeanderson

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    I agree 100%. Registration paves the way for confiscation.

    I also agree that these measure would do nothing to deter violent crime. But making gun crimes a federal offense would perhaps appease the anti-gunners and get them off our backs. Let's throw them a bone.
     
  10. SJ 40

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    + 1 He thinks he is one of the knowing class while in reality he is a condescending, arrogant,A******. SJ 40
     
  11. Havasu

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    Anyone who thinks that "throwing them a bone" will get them off our backs is NOT paying attention.
     
  12. JimP

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    Did he go into his speil about "mortars" and "heavy weapons" being able to be bought off the street?? He's an uninformed idiot who doesn't know he's stupid.
     
  13. SPIN2010

    SPIN2010 Searching ...

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    On the move ... again!
    BO is no gun advocate ... falling for it again I see. UNREAL!
     
  14. countrygun

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    Just the very fact that he thinks making something a "Federal Crime" is a solution ought to tell you right there that he is a big government, liberal, east coast, tool, at heart.
     
  15. GoBuffs!

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    It amazes me when gun owners think registration is an OK thing... If that ever happens, you may as well turn them in. Registering doesn't make them less deadly. It just makes it easy for the government to come by and take them.

    Part of the strength in the people having guns is that the government doesn't know who has them and has to assume that everyone is armed.
     
  16. whoflungdo

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    Ummm no...


    See above response no need to be redundant.
     
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  17. whoflungdo

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    Not only that but it makes us as hypocritical as the left and the Anti's. Supporting/advocating something that we know will not work to appease the ignorant is a blatant lie.
     
  18. I'm not sure if that is a good idea. In some places have a few loose unregistered ammo is a crime. It doesnt take much to commit a gun crime in some places.
     
  19. countrygun

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    And there is the fly in the ointment.

    Since localities can have different gun laws how in the heck can violating them be a "Federal Crime"? If a city in your State has a magazine capacity limit and a draconian enforcement policy, and you accidentally cross into the city limits with higher cap magazine, how can that be a "Federal Crime"?.

    How can a local jurisdiction, by passing a local law or ordinance create a "Federal Crime"?
     
  20. O'Reilly has previously said that he only wants felony gun crimes federalized.I think that is what he meant last night.
    While he's not completely pro gun,he's certainly not an anti.
    He's really improved from his previous positions on the AWB.

    As to him supposedly being an east coast elistist,that's just not the case.O'Reilly has lived all over the country,including Texas,Florida,and Wisconsin.He has been around plenty of outdoor conservatives.