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Opinions on the Dan Wesson Valor...

Discussion in '1911 Forums' started by Nakanokalronin, Feb 9, 2011.

  1. Nakanokalronin

    Nakanokalronin JMB & MTK

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    I have a brand new current production 5" SS Valor coming to my local FFL after reading reviews on it.

    Forged frame and slide, match barrel and bushing, tool steel sear, hammer and disconnector, Heinie tritium sights, Ed Brown thumb safety,slide stop and beavertail and slim-line grips. I'll probably change the slim-lines and bushings for a regular set of grips. Everything else is surely staying put.

    So who owns or has owned a DW Valor? Accuracy,reliability, part wear and anything else you can think of would be appreciated. [​IMG]

    Not my pistol but its exactly what I'm getting
    [​IMG]


    I went with this over a TRP since it has 25lpi on the front strap instead of 20lpi and a normal 70 series setup instead of a 9mm/38super firing pin. There is also the fact that it has zero MIM and a clean slide. I don't mind FCS but I have enough models with them already. Never had an MIM part break but if its the same price without it then why not?

    The Valor and TRP are the max I will spend on a 1911 and with the amount of care given to the Valor I really question why companies charge more except in the case or bevel/melt treatments and finishes but even then its not worth twice the price.

    According to CZ themselves, there are zero MIM parts: http://cz-usa.com/press-releases/34/
     
  2. Quack

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    Good gun, but if you want it in black, buy a different gun for the price they are going for.

    BTW, the only Ed Brown part is the grip safety.
     


  3. bac1023

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    They were good deals when I got mine in 2008. I got it for $1200 or so.


    [​IMG]



    Nowadays, I feel the stainless models are priced about right for what they are, but certainly not values. The black finished models are ridiculously overpriced, in my opinion. I'm not real fond of Dan Wesson's attempt to move upmarket by mostly just jacking their prices through the roof.

    I won't be buying another.
     
  4. tx787

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    Big mistake opening this thread, now I want one! In all seriousness the next 1911 I get will be at that price range and I'm 99% sure it'll be a DW Valor. It's unfortunate their prices have gone up but unless there was something equal or better for less that's the free market economy for ya.
     
  5. Hokie1911

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    I would also choose the Valor over the TRP if I was buying a production 1911 in that pricerange. Clean slide, no FCS, and the FS checkering feels much better than the 20LPI SA uses on the TRP IMHO. Good choice, you won't be disappointed. :thumbsup:

    The only downside is that it doesn't say TACTICAL on it. :supergrin:
     
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  6. tx787

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    But if it doesn't say TACTICAL or OPERATOR how will I be able to able use it for defense of my local mall?
     
  7. bac1023

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    The black Valor is right in the entry level Les Baer price range. There lies the problem.
     
  8. Hokie1911

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    Here is a good starting point...

    [​IMG]
     
  9. Quack

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    no, the problem is if you buy a Baer, you won't get a COTEP membership :animlol:
     
  10. Quack

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    Hey, that's lawdog....
     
  11. Hokie1911

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    It's actually the COTEP Kool-Aid that makes $1,900 for a Duty Coat Valor seem reasonable...

    [​IMG]
     
  12. Hokie1911

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    I think you're right...

    [​IMG]
     
  13. Nakanokalronin

    Nakanokalronin JMB & MTK

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    That is why I went with the stainless model. I like it better actually and already have a set of grips in mind from Cylinder & Slide to be put on when it arrives.

    Whatcha think about these?

    [​IMG]

    I don't care for smooth or rubber grips. Wood with checkering is my choice but this gives it a little different character than the standard double diamond yet still provides traction.
     
  14. Ruggles

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    When my rapping career takes off this bad mofo is gonna be my bodyguard. Not sure when 40 year old white guy rap is gonna hit with the masses but I think soon. :supergrin:

    Dude seems to be packin some extra body armor around the mid section.
     
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  15. Sarge43

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    I own five different DW's including a 2009 Valor. It is a wonderful weapon and the 2010 model has the improvements of tool steel inner workings which you mentioned. I can find nothing bad to say about the Valor at all. It is a strong contender and deserves consideration in with other bigger names, in my opinion. I will tell you that a few have cited displeasure with the level of finish on the stainless version - they say it scratches easily and shows wear. I cannot comment on that either way as I don't own the new stainless. I own a 2010 VBOB with the new Duty Treat (black) and can tell you that it is very tough and despite being used in the shop, shot and carried regularly, it shows NO signs of wear or use at all. It is a very tough treatment.
    Check around on prices for yourself as many like to throw around the MSRP which is totally out of line with what you can find one for with a little searching.
    Whatever your choice, good luck!
    Sarge
     
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  16. tx787

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    Yeah I see the problem there. Looking at the glass half full, the usual conundrum of black or ss is an easy choice with this gun.
     
  17. Wade-19

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    But, you will get a sweet cardboard box to store it in !!!! :tongueout:
     
  18. bac1023

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    :animlol:
     
  19. bac1023

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    They would look great on it. :)
     
  20. glock2740

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    Those will look great on a SS Valor. I like the Valor's plain clean look. Black or stainless.