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opinions on best AR for around a grand?

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  1. Shasta McNasty

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    here's the ones i'm thinking of:

    Daniel Defense
    Rock River Arms
    Stag Arms

    i don't want to build one, just buy one.


    thanks for any input/experiences with these or other models :wavey:
     

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    First question, what usage are you expecting out of this rifle?
     

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    Colt 6920!:thumbsup:
     
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    Of the three, for that price, the DD is the only one i'd consider.


    A BCM, Colt, DD around the same price would all get my interest. But again, what are you using it for.
     
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    Colt LE6920 for carbine length, end of story for carbine length. For a first rifle you can't really go wrong here. No frills but top notch quality through and through. They literally wrote the book.

    Daniel Defense XVM for midlength if you can find one, they evidently quite producing their lower end guns since they have gotten more popular and can't hardly get enough of their high end stuff out the door.

    Spikes Tactical is also another option for midlength but I have reservations about their business practices, guns are good to go and you will get what you order.

    RRA and Stag are both a step below anything else listed.
     
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  6. Shasta McNasty

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    hey watsup, plea. it's hal-9000 from the ar15 armory lol



    just target shooting/defense. not planning on shooting matches, so i don't need hair spitting accuracy at 1,000 yards lol

    just something reliable, durable, and accurate enough for these purposes. good cust serv is a big consideration for me as well. i want a company that pays shipping if there's a prob.

    what do you guys think of carbine vs. mid length gas systems?

    like i said, not looking to build, just buy. thanks :)
     
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    Colt is the best gun for the money but their CS flat out sucks right now. Get a Daniel Defense then. Their customer service is top notch and the gun is every bit as good as Colts. I would go with the XVM if you can find one. If not, the EZ will fit the bill just fine. I've got two DD's and if I ever SBR there will be a third. I've got two DD rifles and if I ever SBR there will be a third.

    Do a search on carbine vs midlength and you will get a ton of threads. For a 16" rifle here a little primer:
    -slightly softer recoil, debatable
    -less wear on internal parts, debatable and most people will never shoot enough rounds to know anyways
    -longer site radius for better accuracy
    -longer rail/handguard is a boon for longer armed folks.

    It's nothing earth shattering. But for a 16" rifle there really is not good reason not go middy all other things being equal. 14.5" is debatable but I vote middy. Shorter than that and carbine is the way to go. Like I said, just do a search and you'll have enough reading to keep you busy for hours. Also hit up m4carbine.net, lots of good info over there.
     
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    is the carbine length more reliable with a variety of loads? i hear the mid length may have short stroking. thanx
     
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    why do you consider RRA and STAG a step below? thanks


    also, i forgot to mention i want a quad rail to attached a vertical grip and trl-1, and also m4 feed ramps, properly staked gas key/castle nut.
     
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    Quality control. In this biz you DO get what you pay for. (Used to work for a manufacturer).

    Stags and RRAs aren't bad plinkers but odds are higher on needing to do more 'after' work to get the gun correct, where as a Colt or BCM will come that way from the box as it should be.

    Quadrail: Troy or LaRue.
     
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    BCM would be my choice
     
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    Colt 6920
     
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    As I agree somewhat, I don't think a 6920 can be found for around $1000, perhaps I'm wrong.
     
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    I don't know what, if anything other than the receiver markings, is different between a Colt LE 6920 and the new SPorter 6920, but I have seen the Sporter for $1040 so far and I believe one could be had for under $1025 from a good dealer.
     
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    Gt Dist. carries the 6920 for just under a grand.

    That being said, I would go with a midlength from Spike's, DD, or BCM, in no particular order. I am in the process of building a middy which will most likely have a DD lightweight middy barrel, Spike's upper, and Troy TRX Extreme rail.
     
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    You can get a drop-in rail later down the line. Don't worry about hanging junk off of it right away. Get the gun and SHOOT it. Take a class. Learn irons. After you've put some rounds down range you will get a feel for what you want. Don't worry about it right off the bat. Get a quality rifle as a base and worry about modifications later. Don't get a lower quality rifle just because it has a crap quad rail installed.(at the price range you are in it will be a crap rail)

    In post #5 I put a link to the LE6920 for $995 at GT Dist. I wouldn't recommend the OP to buy one if you couldn't be had within his budget, that would just be a dick move and stupid.

    The only difference is the rollmarks. I think the LE6920 will have better resale value due to the rollmark. Some like it and some don't. Mall ninjas like the restricted marking and will pay for it. If it doesn't matter either way to you and can get the LE model for the same money your getting a better bargain.
     
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    Sorry, I missed that link, for that price I would go with the 6920 then.
     
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    Colt 6520, I prefer the fixed carry handle. CDNN has a good deal on them.
     
  19. Shasta McNasty

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    did some reading, what are "H buffers" and "o-rings"? there's too many options for AR's :wow: lol

    (is the h-buffer the Mil-spec buffer tube i read about?)



    also, i noticed there's space between the upper and lower receivers on the DD ones i've looked at, but not at all on the RRA ones. i've read that this space can cause the receivers to slam eachother during firing. seems the tighter fit of the RRA ones would be better. what's the story on that?


    thanx
     
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    Check out M4carbine.net for good information. As far as receiver gap goes, it is normal and nothing bad will come of it. For $1000 you can get a much nicer rifle than RRA or Stag. DD was your best choice. You can get a Colt or BCM for around that too.
     
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