and finally put a deposit down and ordered a G38. Guess It's gonna have to be a gen 3, but I like the gen 3 grip, so that won't be a problem. Already started researching hand-loading, and will start out as small as possible with a simple hand press. I have the time, and won't be shooting much more than 50 to 100 rounds a week, so will load small batches. I don't really foresee myself ever cranking out hundreds of rounds a week. Just want to Keep It Simple Stupid. We'll see where this goes.