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OK guys here it is ACR poll

Discussion in 'Black Rifle Forum' started by Mayhem like Me, Feb 1, 2010.

  1. Not a deal breaker 1x9 will work

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  2. I shoot heavy bullets 1x7 please

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  3. I prefer 1x9 so who cares

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  4. If it's not 1x7 I won't buy it...

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  1. Mayhem like Me

    Mayhem like Me Semper Paratus

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    Not a chance
    How important is the ability for your ACR in 5.56 to have a 1x7 twist??





    1. Not important at all 1x9 is fine

    2. Very Important I shoot heavier bullets

    3. I prefer 1x9 so who cares

    4. I will not buy it if it is 1x9
     
  2. Narc1911

    Narc1911 Anchora Salutis

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    1/7 is important for my agency (we use 75grn duty rounds).
     

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  3. 12131

    12131 Monkeyboy CLM

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    Doesn't matter what twist it is. Not getting one, until price drops significantly.
     
  4. Mayhem like Me

    Mayhem like Me Semper Paratus

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    Not a chance
    No it's acually alot better than chrome I can't tell you why( signed agreement) but I know it is...There ARE treatments tougher and more expensive than chrome....
     
  5. Narc1911

    Narc1911 Anchora Salutis

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    I had to edit my post, I realize I had my info wrong and according Bushmaster the barrel is CFH. What info is out on this coating?
     
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  6. SPDSNYPR

    SPDSNYPR Zippy's Friend.

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    The 1-7 is a deal breaker. The better duty ammo out there is getting heavier.

    But the thing costs so damned much I'll never own one anyway. Simple math.
     
  7. NeverMore1701

    NeverMore1701 Fear no Evil Platinum Member

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    If no one knows what it is, and they won't tell us what it is, it's not better.
     
  8. Mayhem like Me

    Mayhem like Me Semper Paratus

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    Not a chance
    I know what it is and it is better, if I were to tell you it would give others the information,,,and would violate an agreement I signed.. if you did a search on very hard and abrasion resistant coatings that were say dark in color you would be in the ballpark..

    Do you expect people to divulge proprietery product information ?? I don't think so..
     
  9. Mayhem like Me

    Mayhem like Me Semper Paratus

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    Not a chance
    Yes I agree and all our practice ammo is 62 grain green tip and that stuff laughs at the 1x9 twist since it is kinda long for it's weight duty ammo is 75 grain TAP and it needs the 1x7 ...
     
  10. RMTactical

    RMTactical www.AR15pro.net CLM

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    I shoot primarily 55gr ammo anyways so I don't really care about that aspect.

    What bothers me about the ACR is a couple things, I have not been impressed by the samples I have seen in person and the price tag. It is still unproven too.
     
  11. CW Mock

    CW Mock

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    I want to know how the mostly plastic gun of the "future" now weighs nearly as much as my 1950's tech USGI M14. That boggles my mind, that and the 3k price tag, for something that once again, is a lot of plastic.
     
  12. Sam Spade

    Sam Spade Staff Member Lifetime Member

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    No, I don't. But since they're selling the thing, I expect them to address the point. Can't see where they've done so yet.


    "Shoulda been made by HK. Then at least I'd look cool."


    Oh, the poll----if it's not going to stabilize MK262, then I'll shop elsewhere.
     
  13. NeverMore1701

    NeverMore1701 Fear no Evil Platinum Member

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    If you expect people to pay stupid high prices for feature-poor product, that just isn't going to fly (I'm talking here about Bushmaster, not you).
     
  14. Mayhem like Me

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    Not a chance
    yes the price is a sore spot with the design team(quality gets expensive) but look at the final product before judgement is passed I predict it to far surpass any of the piston guns and the SCAR in real operational hands..

    I undersatnd about the 55grainers they would be fine in a 1x9 and mosty of the commercial customers would best be served with that twist.
     
  15. DJ Niner

    DJ Niner Moderator

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    Yeah, I was kinda looking for the poll selection that said "At this price, the twist rate should be variable by adjusting a dial on the handguard." :supergrin:
     
  16. raven11

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    at that price there should be a coupon for two free days at the Bunny Ranch, NV
     
  17. Mayhem like Me

    Mayhem like Me Semper Paratus

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    Not a chance
    Can't agree with you on the feature poor aspect of your post..

    The shipped product will be an extremely feature packed system that allows user changable barrel and caliber conversions.

    The coating they use definately out classes simple hard chrome.

    I remember when glocks came out everyone though tennifer was a cheap finish because no one knew about it.....
     
  18. Mayhem like Me

    Mayhem like Me Semper Paratus

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    Not a chance
    they have butthey are not going to say what it is

    ..4th Chrome lined vs. New Proprietary Coating: Many have pointed out that the ACR barrels are not chrome lined and that is correct... They are not. That does not mean that they are not coated. As stated in our original press release the ACR barrels, and all internal components, feature a new, proprietary coatings that are substrate conversions which vastly increase durability, lubricity and reliability.
     
  19. raven11

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    but are you going to include the barrels and caliber conversons with the rifle, it reminds me of the SIG 250

    its nice that you can change the calibers around but if you price the accessories too high no one will buy them and the caliber conversion becomes a moot point
     
  20. Mayhem like Me

    Mayhem like Me Semper Paratus

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    Not a chance
    I'M not pricing squat, I have no idea what their profit magin is on these, but the gun business has a really close margin..

    And I agree on price points too high.

    This seems to be in line with the SCAR which has almost identical features.