Thanks Butch, so now i have any other question. There is a guy on another forum that claims he has a gen2 red gun, but it is LIVE fire. The ser# starts "GD" all matching which does not fall into the trainer #'s. From the pictures he's sent me, the frame does not appear to be painted and actually looks factory. Im trying to figure out if this can be or not for this guy. The gun was also painted a camo color when he got it, and he used a paint stripper to get it off and found the gun to be red. None of the red came off with the stripper.