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Officer Charged in North Carloina Shooting

Discussion in 'Cop Talk' started by J_Rico, Sep 15, 2013.

  1. Mayhem like Me

    Mayhem like Me Semper Paratus

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    Not a chance
    Those are the ones we use to catch the guys that escape from the looney bin

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  2. BigSpenda864

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    I have LEO friends in CLT but I haven't asked any of them about the situation. If all your info is correct, I hope all the information comes to light.It certainly seems like the officer is getting thrown under the bus. Everyone assumes the officer was wrong simply because he was charged so quickly. I can't imagine why he couldn't be put on leave and let a grand jury decide.
     

  3. Sgt127

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    Exactly how would getting more aggressive on a front door of someone who is scared generate a positive outcome?

    Years ago I was driving down Central Expressway in Dallas. I found a body laying on the shoulder of the road. It was about 1:00 AM. Pre cell phones. There were apartments nearby. I walked over and knocked on a door. Held my badge up to the peephole and said "Hey, I'm a Police Officer, theres been an accident up on the highway, call Dallas PD."

    They said "Go away"

    I said, "No, really, I'm a Police Officer, I don't need you to open the door or anything, just call DPD and tell them theres been a major accident in the XXXX block of Southbound Central...as a matter of fact, just give them your address."

    They said: "If you're a Police Officer, why should we call the Police?"

    I said, "Because I don't have a radio, and, I'm by myslef, all I want you to do is call the Police."

    They said "Go away or we're calling the Police."

    I said, "Good, thats all I want you to do is call the Police, once they are here, I can tell them whats going on, but, just freaking call the Police."

    It never occured to me to "Get a little more aggressive with the door." to get help...
     
  4. TBO

    TBO Why so serious? CLM

    Why would you feel you have the right to commit the crimes (plural) of:

    • Trespass
    • Damage to property
    • Disorderly conduct
    :dunno:
     
  5. Because all 9 year old girls feel they have the right to hissy fits? :whistling:
     
  6. steveksux

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    I don't know, maybe he has a point.

    I mean, if there was a report of a guy matching his description actually breaking down the door and forcing his way into the house, the cops would have been much less likely to open fire on him when he charged them and didn't respond to the taser, right? The natural assumption would be he's a good guy that needs help?

    Makes sense to me... : whistling:

    Randy

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  7. nikerret

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    Seems pretty clear. They send those working below them into the fray. They have no intention of doing police work and probably didn't do any when they were new in LE.
     
  8. Andy123

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    Opening disclaimer, the following is not my opinion on the matter. Chief Monroe has publicly stated that he expects his officers to be able to fight unarmed assailants without resorting to their sidearm. He statement seemed to suggest that he was involved, or at least consulted on the decision to charge his officer.
     
  9. If this is true, then the Chief is a monkey's ASH.

    And what he "expects" his cops to do does not have the force of law.

    I look forward to the day when this cop owns half the jurisdiction.
     
  10. Panzergrenadier1979

    Panzergrenadier1979 Keystone Cop

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    :rofl:

    This made my day.
     
  11. Hunch: this chief's street skills were limited or so crappy, everyone wanted him to get promoted just so they could patrol safely.

    Just a hunch, mind you.
     
  12. CAcop

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    Odds are he would be one of then first to start shooting if he was in a fight and loosing.

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  13. Ohio Cop

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    "Do as I say, not as I do."

    We have no one to blame but ourselves for letting bust outs like this rise to that position.

    The writing is usually always on the wall, they're a screw up in FTO, get a pass. They're a lazy, call dodger on the street, get a pass. Then they finally wind up chief and screw the rest of us over. Start axing these knuckleheads from the jump and well be good to go.


    I work with a guy who had to go through the training process TWICE. He is an epic pain in the ass and now wants to take the next sergeants spot. The writing was on the wall, in your mid twenties, you aren't a "slow learner", you just don't give a damn.


    Sorry for the rant, hit a sore spot with me.
     
  14. nikerret

    nikerret Mr. Awesome

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    The problem is we can't just get rid of them. The cycle has already begun. Losers in control wanting losers to replace them. Those of us who work hard have two choices: become worthless and get promoted (maybe) or move on to a department that wants the best and most capable leading the charge, officially. If anyone knows of a department like that, let me know.
     
  15. CAcop

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    Around here the admin selects people most like themselves so it is a self perpetuating cycle. They tend to promote people with less than 5 years as patrol officers who bounce around specialty unit to specialty unit until they make Sgt. Then they spend as much time in the office working on special projects, usually doing the work of those above them.

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  16. CJStudent

    CJStudent Fenced In

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    What's the saying, promoted to the level of their incompetence?
     
  17. txleapd

    txleapd Hook 'Em Up

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    Here it could quite potentially fall into the burglary category as well...

    At least that would be what I told the cops who dragged away the body of the guy who had just broken down my door.

    But.... That's probably just me. I'm sure everyone else would take kindly to someone who just kicked in their front door.

    I can definitely see the rationale. [/sarcasm]


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  18. steveksux

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    I would tend to believe the comments about admin regarding this issue, but the guys partner threw him under the bus too....

    Of course, his partner could be an asspiring chief to be....

    Randy

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  19. Ohio Cop

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    More of us need to step in to the fray.


    Some guys shouldn't make it past probation, rightfully so. No reason to have multiple "come to Jesus" talks with the same guys.
     
  20. Mayhem like Me

    Mayhem like Me Semper Paratus

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    Not a chance
    We are hiring...


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