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Discussion in 'The Okie Corral' started by BSA70, Jan 29, 2013.

  1. BSA70

    BSA70

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    I find the current state of affairs very depressing and have basically cut the news off. Over the past 4 years, I have not followed anything concerning obama, especially obama care, I figured it will never go thru.

    Well, here it is a reality. I know nothing about it.

    What is suppose to be the end result once this is established? Free insurance, cheaper services, What does he want?
     
  2. RimfireMan

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    Oh boy, here comes the stampede of the "Obama is evil" crowd.
     

  3. arclight610

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    You must get insurance, or you pay a penalty to the government. In addition, there is a 1% tax increase on companies that make medical equipment. Obama is evil.
     
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  4. GAFinch

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    It's designed to break the current system by raising premiums, cutting payments to doctors/hospitals for Medicare patients, and putting religious hospitals/clinics out of business by imposing abortion mandates on them. Once the current system is broken, our country will have no choice but to move to a fully government-run, single payer universal health care system.
     
  5. JimP

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    This is the single best succint description of Obama Care I have ever heard!! Well played!!
     
  6. JimP

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    Best danged answer I've ever heard!! Well played.
     
  7. JAS104

    JAS104 NRA Life Member

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    We pay for it, but we dont benefit.
     
  8. Flying-Dutchman

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    In 11 months you will be forced to buy health insurance if you do not have it now.

    If you have good company provided insurance better than what is deemed fair, the overage will be taxed at 40% (out of fairness and to discourage people from having more than others). This will start in 2018 but time flies.

    The Obama Care law will be reworked at some point otherwise it will collapse the healthcare system leading to national socialized single payer healthcare.

    End of life medical care is where the big expense is so if you live long enough you will be euthanized like a family pet.

    They will give euthanizing a pleasant name. Google “Pathways” and the UK healthcare system to see how it is done.
     
  9. Flying-Dutchman

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    Obama Care is Socialism’s last gasp like a bulb that burns brightest right before burns out.

    With U6 unemployment at 15% who is going to pay for this central planner’s dream?

    Reading the IRS rules enforced by an army of new IRS agents; now you must do this and pay that and…and…and I quit. I am not working anymore. It’s not worth it. Now what?

    It is a shame for Obama. Had he gained control of this Country in 1970, he would have had a lot of money to play with.

    But we sent manufacturing overseas without cutting our consumption and now the credit card bill is due.
     
  10. WarCry

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    Fixed that for ya....
     
  11. orgnova

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    Have you read any of it? The ways they are going to pay for it? Like they want 4% if you sell your house! My 2¢.
     
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  12. Dennis in MA

    Dennis in MA Get off my lawn

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    Check out health care costs in Mass - then you'll see how bad it gets. DeVille is looking to raise all sorts of taxes to pay for the tame-by-comparison Romney-Care.
     
  13. BSA70

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    ok, He is going to make you pay for insurance, how? If someone is unemployed or don't make much, you can't get blood out of a turnip.

    Of course the deadbeats beating the system will not miss a benefit:steamed:
     
  14. schild

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    If you have not followed anything about Obama how could you make an informed decision to vote against Obama, if indeed you did vote against Obama and/or just didn't bother to vote?
     
  15. GAFinch

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    The insurance is prorated based on your income. Guess who will be paying for all this subsidized and "free" coverage? (hint: the "wealthy" can only be taxed so much extra - the President was lying about not raising taxes on the middle class)
     
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    I can't argue with this. You did forget "Obama is evil"
     
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    The average family health insurance plan offered by a large company was $15,745 in 2012. The excise tax for the high cost employer plan is $27,500. While I don't agree with this part of the plan it probably will not apply to most people.
     
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  18. Ruble Noon

    Ruble Noon "Cracker"

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    Are you some kind of Texas transplant or what?
     
  19. GAFinch

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    Pelosi and Sebelius are responsible for this mess, Obama was just the pretty face who sold it to the public. He should still be impeached, of course.
     
  20. GLWyandotte

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    Naturally.
    If this plan was proposed by the GOP without the sliding scale, it would be racist by intolerant haters.