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Obama outraises McCain 6:1 among active overseas military

Discussion in 'GT Voting Booth' started by cookekdjr, Sep 6, 2008.

  1. cookekdjr


    Jan 6, 2006
    Just some food for thought:

    Obama outraises McCain 6:1 among active overseas military
    The Center for Responsive politics has come out with a new study on donations from military personnel to presidential candidates, and the results are actively embarrassing for Senator John McCain. Despite McCain’s own veteran status and a media narrative that paints him as a foreign policy expert (despite all evidence to the contrary), the troops which have the most on the line have overwhelmingly favored Senator Obama with their donations.

    According to an analysis of campaign contributions by the nonpartisan Center for Responsive Politics, Democrat Barack Obama has received nearly six times as much money from troops deployed overseas at the time of their contributions than has Republican John McCain, and the fiercely anti-war Ron Paul, though he suspended his campaign for the Republican nomination months ago, has received more than four times McCain’s haul.

    What’s arguably even more embarrassing for Senator McCain than Barack Obama’s fundraising prowess is that Ron Paul out raised him by more than a 4:1 margin from active overseas military. Ron Paul, despite being borderline certifiable with some of his policy ideas, was the only Republican candidate who was anti-war in the primary. Between the contributions that Ron Paul and Barack Obama have received, it’s clear that active duty military that are deployed overseas are sending a clear message that they are ready to end America’s military engagement in Iraq.

    The study also goes on to analyze the contributions from all active duty military, regardless if they are stationed here or abroad. While Senator Obama’s lead over John McCain is not as commanding as it is with just overseas troops, Senator Obama still leads John McCain when it comes to military contributions. What’s more amazing though, is that Senator McCain actually performs much worse than the Republican party when it comes to military fundraising.

    Despite McCain’s status as a decorated veteran and a historically Republican bent among the military, members of the armed services overall — whether stationed overseas or at home — are also favoring Obama with their campaign contributions in 2008, by a $55,000 margin. Although 59 percent of federal contributions by military personnel has gone to Republicans this cycle, of money from the military to the presumed presidential nominees, 57 percent has gone to Obama. (emphasis mine)

    So despite the Republican party leading the Democratic party overall in military contributions by an 18 percent margin, John McCain trails Barack Obama by a 14 percent margin in overall contributions. Maybe it’s been brought to the attention of active military members that when it comes to Veteran Care, Senator Obama is clearly the better candidate than John McCain. Or maybe they are sick and tired of being the ones stuck in a never ending war. But whatever the reason, this year it’s clear that John McCain will not be able to count on the military vote like Republicans have in the past (Bush beat Gore 2-1 in the active military vote), and that should be very worrying to his campaign.

    UPDATE: Barack Obama has raised $60,642 from 134 donors (overseas troops) and $335,536 from 859 donors (all military personnel). John McCain raise $10,665 from 26 donors (overseas troops), and $280,513 from 558 donors (all military personnel). It’s important to point out that this study only covers donations over $200 that are reported to the FEC, and does not include the $25 and $50 donations that Barack usually racks up.

  2. deadday


    Aug 14, 2007
    Because a lot of the people overseas think that voting for Obama will bring them home majically....


  3. striker6126


    Jul 3, 2008
    My best friend is a Maj. In the Army and he prays every night for Mccain to get elected.
  4. Javelin

    Javelin Got Glock? Silver Member

    Feb 9, 2008
    N. Dallas
    I noticed this when Kerry was running for President. But what I noticed most were the ones that were 'pro-Kerry supporters' did not vote and spent most of their time drinking in the barracks. So really in the end it made no difference what the lefties in the Armed Forces thought.

    Those of us who did take the time to register and vote voted Republican IMO :dunno:
  5. BIG supporters for LOW Paid Military. Don't you think??
  6. nnickatnight


    Jan 7, 2008
    DFW, Texas
    The Center for Responsive Politics is a leftist group so of course the spin is favorable to the Obamination.
  7. GVFlyer

    GVFlyer Senior Member

    Sep 9, 2008
    Somewhere in the air.
    The quoted article qualifies as political propaganda. Although retired from the Army, I still serve in an advisory capacity to the Guard at the brigade level. Military personnel are overwhelming for John McCain.

    The military primarily votes Republican, we know the Democrats would hang us out to dry. I have a top down and bottom up view of this - as a junior officer I was a voting officer.

    The democrats know the military is almost a monolithic Republican voting block so they try to change the truth through means such as this article. They also do disgraceful things like going to court to keep the military's absentee ballots from being counted in the contentious 2000 presidential election.
  8. ChrisK


    Feb 25, 2000
    As a former active duty member and now in the reserves I can tell you that all of the people I talk to support McCain. I would say it is 99 to 1. My son is stationed a Beale AFB and he says the same.
  9. Norman

    Norman Non nobis CLM

    Oct 29, 2004
    Not surprising considering you find this on that very same website:

    Strategy ‘08 is a new blog dedicated to covering issues surrounding the 2008 Presidential Campaign between Barack Obama and John McCain. Authors are long-time bloggers and unabashed Barack Obama supporters dansac, slinkerwink, turneresq, zenbowl, smash artist and gdh1 who often post on DailyKos and elsewhere.

    and above that,

    Obama vs. the other guy, 2008

    No bias in the facts there, huh?
  10. SW342

    SW342 *****

    May 12, 2007
    The Republic Of Texas

    So do I, and lots of other folks.

    Go McCain!
  11. zoyter2

    zoyter2 Yeah, so what?

    Jun 25, 2002
    Anniston, Alabama
    I have no scientific data to back this up, but I call 'HUMONGOUS' BS.

    I am yet to find a soldier who supports Obama. I am sure they are out there, but 6:1? BFS.
  12. FL2NV


    Jul 23, 2008
    Ron Paul was the GOP's leading money getter from military..just saying.
  13. mitchshrader

    mitchshrader Deceased

    Jun 14, 2005
    i'm willing to believe soldiers don't respect incompetent commanders, but that doesn't explain obama's popularity.
  14. zooropa


    Jun 10, 2005
    "UPDATE: Barack Obama has raised $60,642 from 134 donors (overseas troops) and $335,536 from 859 donors (all military personnel). John McCain raise $10,665 from 26 donors (overseas troops), and $280,513 from 558 donors (all military personnel). It’s important to point out that this study only covers donations over $200 that are reported to the FEC, and does not include the $25 and $50 donations that Barack usually racks up."

    *This is an absolutely invalid statistical sample. Poorly spun by a biased political group.

    "It does not include the $25 and $50 donations that Barack usually racks up."

    *Oh, how convenient. No, it does not include the $25 and $50 donations that constitute the overwheming majority of military donations. If you were to actually analyse those military donations (instead of just saying what you wish to be true as fact) you might (likely would) find a completely different story.

    Nice attempt to try to convince folks that the miltary rank and file wants Obama. Perhaps it will work on folks who know absolutely no one in the military and have trouble reading (i.e. much of his current base). But I doubt it will work here. :)
  15. Linh40

    Linh40 Member

    May 27, 2005
    Whether a person support Obama or McCain. One thing is clear for carreer military personnel or those in for a few years after deploying a few times it stasrts to take a tow on people.

    Think about this, husband and wife are both military. Husband deploy for "12 months" then get extended for another 3 months. Comes home only to find out wife's unit is deploying for 12 months. So they would have lived apart for over 2 years. Yeah it was their choice to join.................

    That's why some want obama to win thinking that they will be home quicker and deploy less maybe maybe not who knows but at least he sounds good

    This might be my first time voting since I want Obama to win...........................jk LOL

    If you want to know what happens if McCain or Obama win:

    Obama: America will be like South Africa
    McCain: It will be like Bush's third term
  16. I know this is off topic but; If the economy is so bad hows come the two guys running for president can raise over 110 million dollars in campaign money between them in just one month?


    Jul 16, 2008
    JBLM, WA
    dont let GT fool ya... dont let your brother or your cousin or whoever else you "know" in the military fool ya... there are A LOT service members who support OBAMA.

    i support him, have given his campaign money, ever volunteered some of my time for the cause. and as a combat vet, still serving and leading Soldiers EVERY DAY; understand that not all service members automatically vote republican.
  18. 4TS&W


    Jul 20, 2002
    here and there...
    Yeah, only the smart ones do.... :rofl:
  19. Captain Caveman

    Captain Caveman a.k.a. DaReaper

    Apr 12, 2003
    I only know of 1. A co-worker who is also a Lt. Col. in the Army Reserves. I've known him for 12yrs and never really clicked with him. But I respect the HELL out of his rank.