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Discussion in 'The Okie Corral' started by Rabbi, Oct 16, 2012.

  1. frizz

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    That was unwise, I think. It isn't going to get his constituency energized, but it will tend to grab gun folks by the lapels.

    This will hurt him, I think.
     
  2. Travclem

    Travclem Badass Member Lifetime Member

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    Sadly, I don't think it will. I'd venture a guess that very few gun owners are undecided voters.
     

  3. frizz

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    I do not think that there is the political will to pass this again. Gun people are revved up by the recent, landmark wins in the USSCt, and there is a good chance that the Supreme Court would strike it.

    Nowhere near 100% on the court, but Congress is another story. The anti-gun lobby has been having its ass handed to it in the states with the CCW laws. It isn't doing any better at the federal level either.
     
  4. Psychman

    Psychman NRA Life Member

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    That may or may not be true, but what it may do is energize the more apathetic people to actually go out and vote.
     
  5. Flying-Dutchman

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    The NRA endorsed Romney.

    Gun control is very low on the American people’s list of issues.

    It would be political suicide to push gun control so even Obama, rated the most Liberal Senator (Biden was rated 2nd) did not touch guns.

    Remember who demands gun bans whenever there is a mass shooting. It is only and always the Democrats and we remember.

    And now Obama let is slip. Obama wants an AWB and Obama will have more flexibility in a second term.

    And remember, Obama likes to bypass Congress and use Executive Orders; expect an AWB Executive Order under Obama.
     
  6. 9mmdude

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  7. Travclem

    Travclem Badass Member Lifetime Member

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    You never know with our current court. Johnny boy might crawfish and drill us in the ass on guns just like he did on Obummercare.
     
  8. frizz

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    Yep.


    Folks, understand that, in a partisan election, getting people to change their minds is less important than getting your vote excited enough to go to the polls while demoralizing your opponent's vote.
     
  9. Travclem

    Travclem Badass Member Lifetime Member

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    Maybe so, who knows:dunno:
     
  10. jp3975

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    What you said is a foolish half truth.

    Did romney sign off on an awb?

    Yes.

    Was what he did for the good of gun owners?

    Yes

    He intervened to make it less restrictive. His veto power would have been overruled and it would have been a hell of a lot worse. Why cant you understand such simple concepts?

    Your point about Romney being the one of the two that has signed an awb is retarded. I could see it if you said that without knowing but its been explained to you over and over.

    You either hate Romney and are saying whatever you can to put him down because you're a hater or dont have the ability to use logic and reason.
     
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  11. Gallium

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    Not true at all. The best predictor in politics of future behavior is party affiliation and pecking order.
     
  12. JFrame

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    Quite insightful... [​IMG]


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  13. okie

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    o is waiting for second term, then ALL hell will break loose:alex:
     
  14. Bilbo Bagins

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    Not only did Obama mention he wants a new AWB, he want to make handguns more expensive. Here is a direct quote I grabbed from another thread.

    So expect gun and ammo to be taxed so that that the average joe cannot afford to shoot anymore.

    Romney did some stupid things in the past, but he is commited to keep the Status quo with the current gun laws. Also, unlike Obama, he will listen to the GOP voters and the NRA. You got to vote for Romney if you want things to stay they way they are with gun laws.
     
  15. JFrame

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    I guess we need to stop talking about Obama simply in the context of an AWB, and just refer to a gun ban in general.


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  16. Maxx702

    Maxx702 ROTTWEILERS FOR TRUMP!!!!

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    I find it amazing (in a disappointing sort of way) that some people here fail to recognize the dangers of allowing the clearly anti-gun President to serve a second term.

    The empty suit community organizer serves at the pleasure of the Democrat Party. Some here have been lulled to sleep by Obama's sympathetic media, others are taking a stand against why they see as a wishy washy RINO.

    There is nothing pro 2A or even moderate about Obama.
    We probably would have seen an AWB in Congress had the Dems not dedicated their efforts on Obamacare in 2009 and lost their super-majority in Congress as a result.

    Like it or not, It's Romney or Obama. The distinction should be clear.
     
  17. Gallium

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    I should have also qualified that with saying I was referring more to CONGRESS than the office of POTUS, but it does apply to who is in POTUS as well to some degree.

    :cool:
     
  18. Fear Night

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    It doesn't matter which candidate takes office, if an AWB was presented to their desk, I'm confident they would sign it. All it would take is a few more shootings to get us to the point of Congress trying to implement feel-good laws, whether AWB or otherwise.

    I'd be more concerned with some type of UN agreement to disarm the population implemented by Obama than a new AWB.
     
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  19. mgs

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    Now that's some past behavior!
     
  20. But you're still forgetting the point that, whether you like the method or not, the healthcare reform WAS passed through both the Senate and the House, at the time with Democratic majorities. Now the Republicans have the House (and don't seem likely to lose it) while the Dems have the Senate. If your belief and faith in the Republicans is so strong, then you have to realize this would never clear COMMITTEE, let alone come to a floor vote and pass in the House. And if it doesn't pass there, it doesn't MATTER what the President wants.

    And for those saying "Executive Orders!!!", when the fight was so hot for the healthcare reform, why didn't he save himself the trouble and just do it as an EO?? The answer is because that's simply not the way it works. EOs are not the "word of God coming down the mountain", regardless of who's writing them.



    And I have yet to see anyone else address the ONE word that I think tells the REAL story of the President's answer:

    Reintroduced

    Politicians parse their words carefully, and some more than others. Do you think this one doesn't know EXACTLY what he was saying? He didn't say passed. He didn't say enacted. He didn't say in place. He said Reintroduced. So it gets read in the Senate well, sent to some committee, and dies a natural death. The President KEPT his campaign/debate promise, and then no one cares again.

    So, yes, "Words mean things."