I just watched my local news channel and saw that the US Catholic Archdiosies are trying to force a meeting with Barack over his policy that forces Catholic hospitals to perform abortions. Is there any truth to this?
Only the Republican ones...No, you heard it wrong. Barak Obama will force Catholics to get abortions.
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Some of these Bishops act as if there is only one issue the Catholic Church cares about.What the OP is talking about is the freedom of choice act Obama is proposing. A bishop from the archdiases of Chicago was on Cavuto talking about it today. The bishop actually said that if you voted for Obama and knew his position on this issue, it would be a sin for you to get the sacrament.
Thats not how I understood it. I thought he said that if you Voted for Obama, knowing his stance on Abortion, you HAD sinned and NEEDED to take communion to atone for your sin. I don't believe he denied sacrament but he encouraged it. At least thats the way I heard it.... The bishop actually said that if you voted for Obama and knew his position on this issue, it would be a sin for you to get the sacrament.
You could be right, but I was raised as a Roman Catholic and IIRC, you cannot recieve the sacrament until you have confessed your recent sins.Thats not how I understood it. I thought he said that if you Voted for Obama, knowing his stance on Abortion, you HAD sinned and NEEDED to take communion to atone for your sin. I don't believe he denied sacrament but he encouraged it. At least thats the way I heard it.
My grandmother eats, breathes, and craps religion. All she ever railed about was abortion, how evil it is. She has voted democrat her whole life (she's pretty much a socialist, if Karl Marx ran, she'd vote for him, she's never worked). I never bring up religion or politics (her two favorite topics), but when she brings these issues up, I always smile when I see her get ticked off when I remind her the democratic platform is pro-choice.Some of these Bishops act as if there is only one issue the Catholic Church cares about.
here we go!!!!
Obama hasnt FORCED any Catholics to have or to condone abortions. You just read some more right-wing bull**** rhetoric, bent on spreading lies about the future President.
If I understand this all correctly, forcing the Catholic hospitals to make a decision (condone or else) is exactly what he is doing. If the hospital chooses to exercise their religious beliefs and not murder children then they will be breaking the law, and thus the federal government will have the right to shut them down. If on the other hand the Catholic hospitals bow to the will of Obama and murder children then they are being denied their right to religious freedom.:whistling:here we go!!!!
Obama hasnt FORCED any Catholics to have or to condone abortions. You just read some more right-wing bull**** rhetoric, bent on spreading lies about the future President.
Leftists have for years tried to overturn the Freedom of Conscience law that permits private hospital workers to refuse to perform abortions. With Obama and a Democrat congressional majority they now believe they have the power to force their will on others.If I understand this all correctly, forcing the Catholic hospitals to make a decision (condone or else) is exactly what he is doing. If the hospital chooses to exercise their religious beliefs and not murder children then they will be breaking the law, and thus the federal government will have the right to shut them down. If on the other hand the Catholic hospitals bow to the will of Obama and murder children then they are being denied their right to religious freedom.:whistling:
I've recently read that the Catholic Church has stated it will close down hospitals before they will perform abortions. If that happens I expect the federal and blue state governments will seize the hospitals just as Stalin seized all private property and denied all citizens the right to self-determination.Taking another step into the abortion debate, the Obama administration today will move to rescind a controversial rule that allows healthcare workers to deny abortion counseling or other family planning services if doing so would violate their moral beliefs, according to administration officials. http://www.latimes.com/news/science/la-na-conscience27-2009feb27,0,4299014.story?track=rss
Every time a state court orders a father to provide child support for an unborn and future child is it not denying equal protection and due process to him?If Catholic hospitals do not allow this abortions in their hospitals, are they not denying the rights of women?
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/10/obamas_culture_of_death_and_th.html
Best thought in a long time.I find it highly hypocritical considering the fact that if he were born in the US, which he wasn't, a few years later than he was he'd probably have been aborted himself since he was illegitimate.
I think what will probably happen is the 'parts' of the hospitals will break out. Perhaps it will effect emergency and urgent care. Not sure. But maternity areas might very well just be broken out and handled as a separate entity, with no public/gov interference.If they take public funds then they should be able to provide medical services.
If its a private hospital with no public money then the government should not have any say in the matter.
Free Country that we live in does mean some will chose abortion, not for me to judge.
No, forcing the Catholic church to kill people (call them what you want) is not a sensible thing. They are fundamentally opposed to it. It's religion at its core.
They give them out in public school, who knows if they will pass a law forcing ALL school, even private and catholic schools to hand out condoms.Next we'll hear that Obama will promote a bill allowing Catholics to buy condoms - it just never ends :rofl:
Holy misleading title batman.
I hate the thought of abortions, and would never ever advocate one. However, who am I to tell some woman I do not know that she should not have an abortion? It simply isn't my place, nor is it yours. People need to pay more attention to their own lives, and stop trying to mandate what other people do.