obama care up before supreme court!

Discussion in 'Political Issues' started by ponders, Mar 25, 2012.


  1. i think it will be deemed unconstitutional., what do yall think??
     

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  2. I think it's "iffy".
    One must remember that the SC is part of the federal monster, a party to the suit. I seriously doubt it's impartiality.
    Given the fact that the SC had (has) original juristiction anyway, it all seems to be choreographed for us minions.
     

  3. engineer151515

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    The SC likes to put things off.


    My prediction is that they will not accept the argument until someone actually has to pay an Obama tax levy for not enrolling in a .govt approved healthcare plan.
     
  4. monday is the first of 3 day argument for or against it,, we shall see what unfolds..:wow:
     
  5. I think they know how important it is that this be decided now.

    You might be right. I hope not.
     
  6. If it is ruled unconstitutional, it just may be the catalyst that
    turns the tide of both public and political opinion against Obama.

    I hope so!:banana:
     
  7. Sporaticus

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    I don't think they will overturn the entire law. They are allowing Kagan to hear the case, and won't even consider arguments that she should recuse herself.

    The justices are bureaucrats, and bureaucrats are very reluctant to reduce the power of any bureaucracy.

    The liberals on the court have said they look at European rulings and policies to decide US cases. So they are definitely going to vote to uphold.

    I don't know if I trust Kennedy with regard to restricting bureaucratic powers, and Roberts has been somewhat of a disappointment. There will probably be some kind of deal, and vague wording.

    The Obama administration will ignore any ruling they don't agree with anyway.
     
  8. I predict that they will find it constitutional, 5-4. After that, the federal government will have carte blanche to force Americans to do anything.
     
  9. engineer151515

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    The ultimate "plant" and a choice example of the consequence of Presidential elections.
     
  10. Ruble Noon

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    Sadly, I have to agree.
     
  11. Javelin

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    Strange how that happens..... And with Kegan on the bench we all know where she will stand on this issue.

    How she is able to even give her opinion on ObamaCare is beyond me. Obama probably called her personally to make sure she is going to be in there voting.

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  12. Javelin

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    We need to repeal Government Health Care right now! :steamed:
     
  13. This government is broken and damaged beyond all repair. What's really galling, is that the animals in DC are going to try and make sure as many people suffer under their tyranny and mismanagement as possible.

    The really sad thing is watching the true believers vote for stooges like Romney or Santorum, as if it makes any difference, whatsoever.
     
  14. Sporaticus

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    Which has been the goal of all three branches of government, and both parties, for a long time.

    An interesting aspect will be how it will effect the November elections and if the republicans will actually repeal it? If they do, which is unlikely, the SC will have ruled that congress can force the people to do anything it wants.

    The long range effects of this ruling are a lot more serious than just obamacare.
     
  15. engineer151515

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    If the opposing States simply say "no".
    Are these the seeds of the next American Civil War?

    The map - The 2015 war of Federal Aggression. (aka - the Second American Civil War)

    Rebel States - in grey. Might disturb some ghosts when you Pennsylvania boys line up with the Virginia boys. Last time, you were looking across the field at each other at Gettysburg.

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    States suing over ObamaCare

    Virginia
    Florida
    South Carolina
    Nebraska
    Texas
    Utah
    Louisiana
    Alabama
    Michigan
    Colorado
    Pennsylvania
    Washington
    Idaho
    South Dakota
    North Dakota
    Arizona
    Georgia
    Alaska
    Nevada
    Indiana
    Mississippi
    Wisconsin
    Oklahoma
    Wyoming
    Ohio
    Kansas
    Maine
     
  16. Javelin

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    Surprised Texas is not on there... Oh wait... that's right it's big business. And I am sure that many of these insurance companies that set up shop here in Texas due to lack of consumer protection laws are thinking they will make a buck off this program and have most probably been leveraging their pocket politicians.

    :steamed:




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  17. engineer151515

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    I wanted the Federalie States in RED - denoting their political agenda.
     
  18. engineer151515

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    Opening moves in the 2015 War of Federal Agression

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    The Federalies move to consolidate Virginia from North and South.

    California uses her weight to crush Washington State and cut off Alaska while pushing East at least to the Grand Canyon.

    The Southern Rebels and the Northern midland Rebels pinch Federalies Kentucky and Tennessee in order to isolate the Mississippi river valley from the Northeast. (Although this is G33 country, I suspect Rebels will be readily welcomed among the independently minded hill folk of TN).
     
  19. Ruble Noon

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    Cool. My state will be on the right side this time.
     
  20. Bassman1985

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    #5 on the list, Javelin.
     

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