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Discussion in 'Tech Talk' started by Linux3, Jul 4, 2011.

  1. Linux3

    Linux3

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    Just from the casual reading and commenting in Tech Talk it appears to me that we have a higher than average number of Linux and Mac users.

    Maybe just because Linux users are usually more skilled (strike that, more experienced) so they answer more questions?
    More creative people so more Mac users?
    People who shoot are more daring or open to new ideas?

    I could be totally wet but I wish I could set up a poll.
    Windows User;
    Apple Mac User;
    Linux User;
    'D' none of the above;

    By the by, I'm a Linux and Solaris user so that's why the option 'D'.
     
  2. IndyGunFreak

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    I only use Windows. What is this Linux, and Solaris you speak of? Does it have a Start Menu? Is there Antivirus and Malware programs available for it? How much do they cost? ;)

    I only run Linux here... various forms.. but I have a small XP install inside Virtualbox that I occasionally boot to sync some media players (Zunes, Ipods, etc.)
     

  3. HotRoderX

    HotRoderX Gen4 BETATester

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    I mainly use Windows 7 for the simple fact I am a gamer. Other wise I find linux to do just about everything windows does but better except play my games :steamed:
     
  4. Pierre!

    Pierre! NRA Life Member

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    OS/2 wasn't a choice... and I don't understand why, but okay...:steamed:

    :rofl:

    Windows
    Mac
    Linux

    I used to be much stronger in Linux, but the learning curve was kicking my butt when Windows feeds my family.

    Mac is much better after you BootCamp it to Windows 7...

    That's me....
     
  5. Taykaim

    Taykaim NRA Member

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    I make my living as a Solaris guy, so I'll count that even though I haven't powered up my sun boxes for years.

    Solaris, hundreds of servers at work
    Linux Red Hat at work Fedora/Ubuntu/Debian/SuSe for home use and training up family and friends. uClinux, LOAF, ETLinux for various home automation projects.
    Mac OSX 10.5 on a work issued laptop that was never given a purpose, so now is simply a testbed for osx toys and paralells.
    Windows XP home media server Boxee host. And client A issued laptop
    Windows Vista the sad work issued laptop.
    Windows 7 for those rare times when I have a moment to play a game.

    Most of them are obsolete in the mainstream computer sense, but they provide useful services to me and family, as well as help use track ROI on various energy related projects I do.
     
  6. JimmyN

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    Those are the ones where you type commands into a prompt line. And spelling, spacing, and punctuation have to be exact.... what a pain.:supergrin:


    I use Windows and BSD UNIX running a gnome desktop. I have KDE installed as well and can pick either, but I prefer gnome.

    I use Windows because everyone in the company uses Windows and some of our software only runs on Windows, so it's a necessary evil. Plus I do like gaming and simulators. A 62 year old doesn't fall into the normal demographic for gaming, but I am what I am.

    All of my email and most of my web surfing is done on the UNIX system since viral infections are not a concern, no monthly security updates, and it's pretty much unstoppable. I can't afford for my email or server access to be down, even for a little while, because some software crashed the system or I've installed a new program and now Windows can't find my LAN.

    It's almost impossible to crash or lock up a UNIX system, the kernel is protected and keeps marching on so you just hit an "F" key to open another terminal, kill the errant process, and have another go at it if your first attempt didn't turn out well. Plus I do all my webserver maintenance, script writing/editing, image editing and other stuff on my UNIX box. So I use both Windows and UNIX about equally.

    Getting back to the OP's original question, after subjecting you to all my pointless drivel, I'd say that *NIX folks (of any flavor) are responsive to questions and problems because they are more accustomed to both giving and receiving help through internet forums. There is little or no tech support, or hotline to call, so they turn to other users for solutions and are quick to help others when they have a problem. I think they tend to gravitate toward tech forums where even if they can't help they will invariably learn something new if they hang around. I've been working with computers for over 20 years and I'm still learning.
     
  7. Ralff

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    Right now Ubuntu/WinXP. I'm determined to make my computer last at least another year. :) Once I built my new monster it will be Win7 and Ubuntu.

    I may not even bother with Win7 if I can get my games to run smoothly on Ubuntu.
     
  8. gemeinschaft

    gemeinschaft AKA Fluffy316

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    I use all sorts of platforms.

    At work = Windows 7
    At home = Linux
    Of the flavors of Linux that I like, Ubuntu and Lubuntu.

    My GF has a Mac, so I have to support that as well.

    I set my mom's PC up with Ubuntu and placed a couple shortcuts on her desktop for Web and E-mail access... I haven't had to go to her house and fix anything since.
     
  9. Linux3

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    I wrote a little app for my parent's Ubuntu system called 'Ask Your Son' with an icon on the desktop.

    If they click this it gets the IP address and sends me an email. I can then ssh into the box as me and fix most anything. They seldom have any problems except lost files, well they think they lost me, and permissions.
     
  10. gemeinschaft

    gemeinschaft AKA Fluffy316

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    I like it.

    I did something similar, I put an applet in the panel at the top in the middle of the screen for TeamViewer.

    I just tell my mom to click the Blue Button and tell me what Session # and PW.

    Luckily, the only things that I have to help her with involve how to save pictures to a folder, etc...
     
  11. Ogreon

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    Windows 7. I've never had a problem that I couldn't fix with any variant of Windows. A few crashes with XP, none with 7 at this point. Never been trashed by a virus or other malware. (I don't go to porn or warez sites. I tend not to click on stuff willy-nilly. I tend to roam with script disabled.)

    I've tried Ubuntu Linux and haven't been as happy with it. I put the last release on a usb key and had various problems. Some things wouldn't run after entering the "sudo" command and entering the password. When I updated the kernel the thing stopped booting.

    I thought about reverting to the previous kernel, but lacked the motivation to do so. I'm sure that a little tinkering would have fixed the problems, but Windows is working without the tinkering. Tinkering can be fun and educational, but I have other problems at the moment. I'll probably try again with the next release.

    I'm an experienced computer user (DOS, Windows 3.1 and up, OS2, Amiga, Commodore 64, PET, Apple 2, Timex Sinclair [with the 16K upgrade], TRS 80 and a few more. Ubuntu is supposed to be the most user friendly Linux. My conclusion is that Linux is not yet ready to be a mainstream operating system.

    Linux is free, but the $100 for Windows every 3-7 years isn't going to break too many people. ($49 if you bought the early release of 7, I think you can get it for $29 if you have a .edu email address.)
     
  12. IndyGunFreak

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    Linux not ready, bla bla bla.

    Linux is perfectly ready, it just has a very steep learning curve. Ubuntu would not be as popular as it is if it was "not ready". If you won't commit to learning the OS, then really, you are better off sticking w/ Windows.

    I've been virtually Windows free for several years, and have no intention of going back to Windows.. I say virtually, because I have a zune, and the only way you can sync that is w/ Windows... so I keep XP in Vbox to sync my Zune.
     
  13. I gots:

    Windows 7
    Windows Vista
    Windows XP
    Ubuntu
    Fedora (ona "stick")
    OS X
    Access to Gentoo
    Access to VMS

    I've used:

    MS-DOS
    AppleDOS
    AOS/CLI
    DOS/VSE
    RSTS
    RedHat
     
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  14. Ogreon

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    Linux is ready for you. Linux is ready for many people. Linux is not ready for the mainstream, despite the claims of many.

    I enjoy tinkering with computers. If I didn't have other problems taking up my time, I would be tinkering with Linux now. The mainstream will not, indeed should not, have to commit to learning the OS. A mainstream OS should meet folks where they are.

    Most people don't enjoy tinkering with their computers, cars, or plumbing.

    "It's a great car, if you'll learn how to fix it yourself." This means that it is not a great car for most people.
     
  15. IndyGunFreak

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    It's not "tinkering"... You have to relearn to use your computer, which many people do not have the patience for. My PC's/Laptops that I install Linux on, are all pretty much "Set it and forget it"... I don't "tinker" with them at all except after first installing. Even then, thats simply disabling things I don't need, enabling things I need, etc. No more than I would do w/ a Windows box.
     
  16. GIockGuy24

    GIockGuy24 Bring M&M's

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    Try openSuse Linux. It has a lot of money and a big company (Novell) behind it. No Linux knowledge is required. It originally started in Germany and it's jokingly referred to as the "Mac of Linux" in Germany because it's so easy to use.

    Libre Office is based on Novell's enhanced version of OpenOffice. Novell donated much, but not all, of their code for it to open source.
     
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  17. GIockGuy24

    GIockGuy24 Bring M&M's

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    I mostly use Scientific Linux because it's about as close as I can get to Red Hat Linux for free. I installed Ubuntu netbook 10.04 on my mother's netbook and it works well and I'm worried moving to a newer version might not go as well and it still gets updates for now.
     
  18. Pierre!

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    Good Stuff - I have openSuse as my 'goto' Linux. It always patches, and always works.

    I will have to check out Libre Office in my spare time (next life?) :supergrin:
     
  19. Ogreon

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    My installation had several problems from the beginning and stopped booting. Thus requiring tinkering. Had it been "Set it and forget it", I would currently be using it. I have the time to learn some new things, but not to fix problems.

    I like the security philosophy behind Linux. Considering, though, how many complaints there have been since Windows started asking users to click a button to allow programs to run and make changes, I doubt that most people would be willing to use a command line and enter a password.

    Mainstream means "most people" - "the average Joe". My experience with Ubuntu Linux suggests that it is not there. Ferraris are not mainstream either, it doesn't make them bad cars.
     
  20. Ogreon

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    Thank you. I will give it a try.