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o CARE and old farts! (yes an email I got)

Discussion in 'Political Issues' started by lethal tupperwa, Mar 6, 2014.

  1. lethal tupperwa

    lethal tupperwa

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    > Subject: : F Y I
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    > > Can’t believe it has come to this??????




    > > what a great system!







    > > If you don't read this, and do nothing about it, don't complain when it affects you or your loved ones! This is the second Judge to have read the Obama Care document and made comments. More highlights of Nancy 's "pass it and Then find out what's in the bill"! Show this to everyone nearing the ripe old age of 76. These are just a few of the things that we Seniors are going to have to deal with starting in 2014. Even far left Democrats will not like these.
    > >
    > > MEDICARE AT AGE 76, IMPORTANT PLEASE READ - ANYONE WHO DOUBTS THIS IS TRUE CAN DOWNLOAD THE NEW OBAMA CARE AND LOOK UP THE PAGES MENTIONED. THIS IS JUST THE BEGINNING......................
    > > PLEASE PASS THIS OUTRAGE TO EVERYONE ON YOUR LIST!!!
    > > THIS should be read by everyone, especially important to those over 75....... If you are younger, then it may apply to your parents....
    > >
    > > Your hospital Medicare admittance has just changed under Obama Care. You must be admitted by your primary Physician in order for Medicare to pay for it! If you are admitted by an emergency room doctor it is treated as outpatient care where hospital costs are not covered. This is only the tip of the iceberg for Obama Care. Just wait to see what happens in this year and 2014!
    > >
    > > YOU ARE NOT GOING TO LIKE THIS... At age 76 when you most need it most, you are not eligible for cancer treatment * see page 272. What Nancy Pelosi didn't want us to know until after the healthcare bill was passed. Remember she said, "We have to pass the Bill so that we can see what's in it." Well, here it is.
    > >
    > > Obama Care Highlighted by Page Number THE CARE BILL HB 3200 JUDGE KITHIL IS THE 2ND OFFICIAL WHO HAS OUTLINED THESE PARTS OF THE CARE BILL. Judge Kithil of Marble Falls, TX - highlighted the most egregious pages of HB3200 Please read this....... especially the reference to pages 58 & 59 JUDGE KITHIL wrote:
    > >
    > > ** Page 50/section 152: The bill will provide insurance to all non-U.S. residents, even if they are here illegally.
    > >
    > > ** Page 58 and 59: The government will have real-time access to an individual's bank account and will have the authority to make electronic fund transfers from those accounts.
    > >
    > > ** Page 65/section 164: The plan will be subsidized (by the government) for all union members, union retirees and for community organizations (such as the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now - ACORN)
    > >
    > > ** Page 203/line 14-15: The tax imposed under this section will not be treated as a tax.
    > > (How could anybody in their right mind come up with that?)
    > >
    > > ** Page 241 and 253: Doctors will all be paid the same regardless of specialty, and the government will set all doctors' fees.
    > >
    > > This is what they do in Sweden too. I know because Alf's daughter Ann is an OBGYN, and her husband, Thorsten, is a surgeon.........
    > >
    > > ** Page 272. section 1145: Cancer hospital will ration care according to the patient's age.
    > >
    > > ** Page 317 and 321: The government will impose a prohibition on hospital expansion; however, communities may petition for an exception.
    > >
    > > ** Page 425, line 4-12: The government mandates advance-care planning consultations. Those on Social Security will be required to attend an "end-of-life planning" seminar every five years. (Death counseling..)
    > >
    > > ** Page 429, line 13-25: The government will specify which doctors can write an end- of-life order.
    > >
    > > HAD ENOUGH???? Judge Kithil then goes on to identify: "Finally, it is specifically stated that this bill will not apply to members of Congress.
    > >
    > > No wonder they did not see the need to read it....doesn't apply to them!!! THE AMERICAN PEOPLE NEED TO STAND UP TO WASHINGTON .... I don't know if we can do anything, but awareness helps.
     
  2. JBnTX

    JBnTX Texas

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    When the government controls healthcare, they control every aspect of your life. They can decide who lives and who dies.

    Under Obamacare the government will rule our lives, and the IRS will be their enforcement arm.

    Maybe that's why Lois Lerner is keeping her mouth shut?
     


  3. jeanderson

    jeanderson Toga!... Toga! Platinum Member

    In a totally free country with a fair and unbiased press, facts like these would be common knowledge to all its citizens. Too bad the United States isn't that country anymore.

    This is what "social justice" looks like.
     
  4. IvanVic

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    Almost everything in that email is entirely make-believe, and I would imagine that also applies to any unsolicited email you get with 6 consecutive question marks in the subject line. What fascinates me is how people who are dumb enough to believe chain emails, or fall for financial scams through chain emails, are even smart enough to create an email account in the first place.
     
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  5. Joshhtn

    Joshhtn The eBay Guy Silver Member

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    No kidding!!!!! It absolutely blows my mind when folks pass this pure crap off as true facts...

    Makes me angry that so many Americans are this dumb.
     
  6. SJ 40

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    Social justice has another look too, the one with pitchforks and torches. SJ 40
     
  7. hooligan74

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    Facts like which? I don't see many facts in the OP....
     
  8. JBnTX

    JBnTX Texas

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    What exactly in that e-mail is not true?
    Please post sources to back up your posts.

    I go to the VA Hospital and that is Obamacare.
    Everything in that e-mail is either true or so damn close to the truth it's scary.

    I've already been a victim of government run healthcare, and I can tell you that you DO NOT want the federal government and the IRS running your healthcare.

    ..
     
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  9. zeke501

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    Their are various rumors abounding on the internet about the ACA.

    It would help everyone when we get one to look this e mail info up, I have been duped before too , but with all this crappola from the goobermint being spewed it is no wonder people are posting it on the net.

    It would help if people who say it is a "lie" might take time to look it up and post what they have found to dispute it rather than accusing people of being stupid, dumb, ignorent, etc.

    NO ONE knows or understands this bill in it's entireity! This is totally nuts to put a bill through and they do not understand it nor have they read it! Another reason for all of the confusion!

    I looked on google and found this site, you can scroll down and find some of the answers to the statements made in this e mail.

    http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/h/health-plan.htm#.UxiZ7fldVCY
     
  10. hooligan74

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    http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/PLAW-111publ148/pdf/PLAW-111publ148.pdf

    Page 272 doesn't seem to say that patients above the age of 76 cannot get cancer treatment.

    I don't see anything on page 50 that talks about providing healthcare to illegals.

    I don't see anything on pags. 58/59 about the Gov having access to private citizens bank accounts and being authorized to make transfers from said accounts.

    Should I go on?

    If I'm looking at the wrong pages, please point me in the right direction.
     
  11. RussP

    RussP Moderator

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    Wrong pages? No...Wrong document...
     
  12. hooligan74

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    Ah, indeed. This email is referencing a bill that was never passed by Congress...


    :upeyes:


    Silly me, I expected this to be criticizing the law that was actually enacted.
     
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  13. IvanVic

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    Jesus Christ.
     
  14. Guss

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  15. RussP

    RussP Moderator

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    He was not in the email.
     
  16. Deployment Solu

    Deployment Solu Kydex Crafter

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    Amen!!!! And TAR & FEATHERS!!!
     
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  17. hooligan74

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    Ha! He was about the only thing the "author" of that email left out, Russ.

    :wavey:
     
  18. Deployment Solu

    Deployment Solu Kydex Crafter

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    :rofl::rofl::rofl:
     
  19. Gundude

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    I find it hilarious that some of the people who lament the stupidity of the American voter are the same ones who get their "information" on the issues from chain emails.

    If ever a list of "too dumb to vote" criteria was built, reading and/or forwarding chain letters would be at the top.
     
  20. nmk

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    This post alone should be a sticky.