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NYS Senate passed new gun bill

Discussion in 'The Okie Corral' started by High Altitude, Jan 14, 2013.

  1. ChiTownPicaro

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    In the state senate it is 57% controlled by the GOP. I am sorry but this is a fact and not disputable.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_State_Senate
     
  2. Rockaer Republicans... The republicans who would go vote on an AWB federally tend to come from NY, MA, NJ or CA.
     

  3. 3.slow

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    M1 grand falls into the antique category because it is greater than 50 years old according to http://www.governor.ny.gov/2013/gun-reforms-faq

    Because it accepts more than 7 rounds, you may have to register it as an assault weapon. . . .wtf

    Also, dealers must cease selling "assault" weapons immediately in new york, they can only sell to other dealers or out of state. Only "assault" weapons paid for before january 15, 2013 can be given to the buyer. All grandfathered "assault" weapons must be registered by april 15, 2014, but high cap mags must be modified to accept only 7 rounds. Or you can buy a 7 round mag if one exists.
     
  4. scosgt

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    Garand is NOT fed by a detachable magazine. It is clip fed, and therefore NOT an assault weapon and does not have to be registered.
     
  5. n2extrm

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    23. "Large capacity ammunition feeding device" means a magazine, belt,
    drum, feed strip, or similar device, [manufactured after September thir-
    teenth, nineteen hundred ninety-four,] that (A) has a capacity of, or
    that can be readily restored or converted to accept, more than ten
    rounds of ammunition, OR (B) CONTAINS MORE THAN SEVEN ROUNDS OF AMMUNI
    TION, OR (C) IS OBTAINED AFTER THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THE CHAPTER OF THE
    LAWS OF TWO THOUSAND THIRTEEN WHICH AMENDED THIS SUBDIVISION AND HAS A
    CAPACITY OF, OR THAT CAN BE READILY RESTORED OR CONVERTED TO ACCEPT,
    MORE THAN SEVEN ROUNDS OF AMMUNITION; provided, however, that such term
    does not include an attached tubular device designed to accept, and
    capable of operating only with, .22 caliber rimfire ammunition OR A
    FEEDING DEVICE THAT IS A CURIO OR RELIC. A FEEDING DEVICE THAT IS A
    CURIO OR RELIC IS DEFINED AS A DEVICE THAT (I) WAS MANUFACTURED AT LEAST
    FIFTY YEARS PRIOR TO THE CURRENT DATE, (II) IS ONLY CAPABLE OF BEING
    USED EXCLUSIVELY IN A FIREARM, RIFLE, OR SHOTGUN THAT WAS MANUFACTURED
    AT LEAST FIFTY YEARS PRIOR TO THE CURRENT DATE, BUT NOT INCLUDING REPLI
    CAS THEREOF, (III) IS POSSESSED BY AN INDIVIDUAL WHO IS NOT PROHIBITED
    BY STATE OR FEDERAL LAW FROM POSSESSING A FIREARM AND (IV) IS REGISTERED
    WITH THE DIVISION OF STATE POLICE PURSUANT TO SUBDIVISION SIXTEEN-A OF
    SECTION 400.00 OF THIS CHAPTER, EXCEPT SUCH FEEDING DEVICES TRANSFERRED
    INTO THE STATE MAY BE REGISTERED AT ANY TIME, PROVIDED THEY ARE REGIS
    TERED WITHIN THIRTY DAYS OF THEIR TRANSFER INTO THE STATE. NOTWITH
    STANDING PARAGRAPH (H) OF SUBDIVISION TWENTY-TWO OF THIS SECTION, SUCH
    FEEDING DEVICES MAY BE TRANSFERRED PROVIDED THAT SUCH TRANSFER SHALL BE
    SUBJECT TO THE PROVISIONS OF SECTION 400.03 OF THIS CHAPTER INCLUDING
    THE CHECK REQUIRED TO BE CONDUCTED PURSUANT TO SUCH


    So here is the question if they define an ammunition feeding device like this what does this mean for the M1? I also wonder in the capacity is 7 rounds max, how do you load an M1? Going to be a witch to shove 7 rounds in a clip in to the action and avoid the whole M1 thumb thing.

    The law states the feed devices had to be manufactured 50 years ago to be a antique, so does that mean no new production clips?

    I think the funniest one is my freinds 10/22 with a thumb hole stock is an assault weapon now.

    Whole thing is just stupid.
     
  6. scosgt

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    I received a call back from the Trooper on the hotline in Albany.

    Hear this and remember it:

    A GARAND CLIP IS NOT A FEEDING DEVICE.
    A feeding device is a magazine, machine gun belt, drum, or "feed strip" from a Jap WWII machine gun.
    A garand clip, stripper clip etc is a MAGAZINE LOADING DEVICE, NOT A FEEDING DEVICE.

    That info comes straight from the Governor who wants to be King legal counsel.
     
  7. iDivideByZero

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    So a clip is a magazine and a magazine is a feeder ... got it. :upeyes: ... glad it makes so much sense now.
     
  8. M&P Shooter

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    :rofl:
     
  9. n2extrm

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    Exactly my point. It is made this way to leave it open for a reason. It's still a crime to load more then 7 rounds in any thing. So how do you safely load a M1?
    :faint:

    Hey I hope it's true that they are not considering the M1 an assault weapon, but I have trouble trusting it.

    I went to the range last week and the RO was telling everyone the police were at another local range the day before confiscating any rifle or magazine that they saw as non compliant with the 1994 AWB that never sunset in NY. A lot of the items are being claimed as compliant. Now it could be rumor, but I doubt it based on the older gentleman who warned us about it. He basically said it was a bad idea to have anything even remotely questionable.
     
  10. jbailey8

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    I would like to see firearms manufacturers take a hard stance against laws like this. They should stop all manufacturing in these states and refuse to seek contracts with them. Stop supplying police, military, homeland security etc and that sends a big message. Too bad they'll be accused of not being patriotic, when in fact it would be the pinnacle of patriotism.


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  11. n2extrm

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    IIRC Barret did this with CA I believe some others did as well.