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NY madness begins

Discussion in 'The Okie Corral' started by grg3d, Feb 1, 2013.

  1. Huaco Kid

    Huaco Kid

    Mar 11, 2007
    But, Obama's Feds do?

  2. Zombie Surgeon

    Zombie Surgeon MODELATOR

    Sep 6, 2012
    There is no strawman here. "Obeying orders" and "there is nothing I could do, it was the law" are the most common excuses used by the enforcers and jack booted murderers employed by totalitarian regimes.
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  3. PaLEOjd


    Jun 1, 2010
    NY is out of control.......Only going to get worse throughout the entire country and we are all along for the ride.
  4. jdeere_man

    jdeere_man CLM

    Feb 25, 2007
    NW Missouri
    I'm still trying to figure out on what grounds the traffic stop was made or on what grounds the search occurred.

    Regardless it's freakin' stupid.
  5. BlisteringSilence

    BlisteringSilence Secret Squirrel

    It's also what I say when I take the 105 pound wife to jail after she hits her 250 pound husband with a chair.

    Civil disobedience is a tough pill to swallow. It works, but you have to be willing to go to jail for the righteousness of your cause.

    Sent from my Nokia 5120. And you thought all it could do was play snake.

  6. That link you posted was very cool,

    I just read one of the articles it brought me to and it seems he was in a closed business parking lot and was approached by a LE and he explained he was going to sell some ar mags that were marked military use only.
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  7. ray9898


    May 29, 2001
    On the other hand it's true because that is exactly what society expects of LE. They personally elect legislators to enact laws along with judges and district attorneys to apply them. In our scheme of governement the LEO is not placed in a position other to enforce what is there as long as the courts have not declared it un-Constitutional.
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  8. BlisteringSilence

    BlisteringSilence Secret Squirrel


    Sent from my Nokia 5120. And you thought all it could do was play snake.
  9. Fox

    Fox Varmit Control

    Nov 7, 2001
    I hope he fights the law in court. There are many attorneys that will take his case pro bono because they want to defend the 2nd Amendment.

    He could put up a legal defense fund and he would soon be able to afford a team of high powered attorneys.
  10. according to the available information. He was selling 30 round magazines marked military use only,What is there to defend?
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  11. ray9898


    May 29, 2001

    .....and the law has been on the book for like 20 years now.
  12. n2extrm


    Feb 24, 2009
    I think a number of people treat the magazine laws and some of the other laws like they are no big deal. You see guys with collapseable stocks on ARs and maybe Pmags, but you can tell the guns brand new and IIRC Pmags were not around in 1994 when the ban was enacted. People feel its no big deal, how am I going to caugh, what are they going to do arrest me. The reality is it is a big deal. I don't think the law is right, I don't think it will stop a mass shooting, but it can put a regular guy in jail. Yes you are a criminal if you break these laws, so it's hard to call him a honest guy or to imply he is not a criminal.

    It sucks, it's not right, but if you break the law, no matter how unjust the law is, you get arrested. Why I won't take the chance with the new law or the old.

  13. make no mistake, I am not defending this guy
  14. frank4570


    Jun 25, 2004
    The ban on 30 round mags is a violation of the constitution. I'll throw in a few bucks for a lawyer if somebody will fight this.
  15. I could not agree with you more,

    Did anybody watch the senate hearing about gun laws? Well one of the things that the pro gun people discussed was the lack of federal gun charges ,and enforcement of existing gun laws Unfortunately this guy may become the new poster boy of illegal gun and magazine sales prosecutions. this most likely will be a life altering event and very expensive
  16. philipk


    Mar 12, 2000
    NE Ohio
    What court declared that?

    Please understand I do not support bans on magazines. However there is nothing in the language of the second amendment to state that you can't limit magazine size.

    It isn't there. No matter how much you stretch the Second Amendment there is no way possible to come to the conclusion that you cannot limit magazine size.

    Heller vs DC made it quite clear that you can regulate firearms.

    I know what I am writing is not popular. We cannot stand behind the Second Amendment on this issue. So we have to stand up for the merits of the case.
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  17. The Fed

    The Fed

    Dec 23, 2012
    Central Florida
    Update: Mr. Haddad is awaiting Grand Jury action. The DA, despite an Internet campaign not to pursue the charges said Mr. Haddad is legitimately charged with violating the 1994 NY state law.
    Last edited: Feb 4, 2013
  18. RussP

    RussP Super Moderator Moderator

    Jan 23, 2003
    Central Virginia
    Thanks, TBO...
  19. RussP

    RussP Super Moderator Moderator

    Jan 23, 2003
    Central Virginia
    Thanks, schild...

    That site is also where Nathan's brother, Michael posts updates on what happened, is happening and will be happening.

    You need to read his posts.