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No Refusal DWI Checkpoints

Discussion in 'The Okie Corral' started by Random, Dec 28, 2012.

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  1. Kingarthurhk

    Kingarthurhk Isaiah 53:4-9

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    It is perfectly legal to check for inspection stickers, proper licensing, proof of insurance, and driver's license. Neither of those things are your property.
     
  2. Hauptmann6

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    Only if there is some sort of cause. Stopping everyone is NOT the answer.
     

  3. Kingarthurhk

    Kingarthurhk Isaiah 53:4-9

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    I think you should face the same penalties as getting drunk and firing a weapon indiscriminatly in your neighborhood. You should face the same pentalties when you kill someone driving drunk as if you got drunk and decided to murder someone. Because, you did.
     
  4. Kingarthurhk

    Kingarthurhk Isaiah 53:4-9

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    There is a solution. Walk.
     
  5. AK_Stick

    AK_Stick AAAMAD

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    Fortunately though, your knee jerk reaction isn't what law and/or penalties are based upon.
     
  6. Hauptmann6

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    Exactly. If they were stopping everyone looking for guns think of the uproar.
     
  7. certifiedfunds

    certifiedfunds Tewwowist

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    Yes apparently you are
     
  8. Kingarthurhk

    Kingarthurhk Isaiah 53:4-9

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    That didn't even make any sense. Try again.
     
  9. Hauptmann6

    Hauptmann6

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    I don't agree with you often. But I very much agree with you on this.
     
  10. Kingarthurhk

    Kingarthurhk Isaiah 53:4-9

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    The only thing you constructively own is your vehicle. And, honestly, the bank probably still owns that.:rofl:

    You don't own your license plate, inspection tag, or driver's license. They are issued by the state in which you reside.
     
  11. certifiedfunds

    certifiedfunds Tewwowist

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    If you think driving home after 3 glasses of wine is the same thing as firing a gun indiscriminately you really shouldn't own a gun.

    As for the penalty for killing someone with a car, if it was intentional you are correct.
     
  12. OctoberRust

    OctoberRust Anti-Federalist

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    Yep, but to pull someone over without probably cause ? Then to try to get them to submit to a test and wasting more man hours and jamming up traffic. Wait, it's the government. I forgot they aren't about efficiency. :rofl::rofl:
     
  13. certifiedfunds

    certifiedfunds Tewwowist

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    I read it again. It's very clear
     
  14. KommieforniaGlocker

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    Stopped Reading right there :wavey:
     
  15. TBO

    TBO Why so serious? CLM

    1. They are looking at the operator of the vehicle.

    2. The layman's version of the court's take on checkpoints is: You can't randomly stop individual vehicles w/o RS or PC, but conducting checkpoints for specific reasons (DUI/equipment) by stopping all cars for quick/short/shallow checks was acceptable.

    Sent from my Nexus 4 using Copatalk 2
     
  16. Kingarthurhk

    Kingarthurhk Isaiah 53:4-9

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    No, but a wino like you shouldn't own a car. If you get buzzed on wine and go hit and kill someone with your car, I view that as intentional.
     
  17. certifiedfunds

    certifiedfunds Tewwowist

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    I'm a wino? I rarely drink. I never drink and drive. Not even one drink.

    But I do drive sleepy sometimes.
     
  18. RustyL

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    Or if ones tell them, " No" your daughter, wife, sister, aunt, cannot have an abortion...ahhh the gnashing of teeth


     
  19. The Fed

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    Do they publish in the newspaper where they are setting up their checkpoints? In my county in Florida (perhaps all counties) they publish exactly where and what times they are conducting DUI stops. So all you need to do is read the paper or look on the paper's website and take another street home. Why? Because their attorney said that was the only way they could be legal.
     
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  20. Kingarthurhk

    Kingarthurhk Isaiah 53:4-9

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    Really? You just said you drink three glasses of wine and get behind the wheel. Which is it?

    Even when I was a drinker: I either staggered on home, had a designated driver, or got a taxi. Those were all choices. Getting behind the wheel after drinking is also a choice.

    They built a Benigans, right across the University I was at, back when they were cool. On Saint Patrick's Day the band was on the roof, the local police were all there, and the DWI trucks were in the parking lot.

    Those guys were laid back, and just making sure no one drove off drunk. I remember having a nice conversation with one of the guys ending in a fist bump. These guys aren't the boogie men. They are just doing a job, and doing it within the confines of the law and civil liberties.

    Imagining that you cannot have your state issued licensing inspected and considered is not even logical.

    Try not having some random person not look at your ID before you get into a club. But, if you are as old I am, no one bothers me much. Too much grey I guess.:dunno:
     
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