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Nighthawk...

Discussion in '1911 Forums' started by Quack, Jul 26, 2011.

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  1. up1911fan

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    Awesome. That's what I wan on a $2500 plus gun.
     


  2. samuse

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    They also use Chip McCormick grip safeties. More MIM.

    That thread is funny. All those silly people think that just because a 1911 cost $3,000.oo it should be high quality and have a good warranty. There's a sucker born every minute...
     
  3. skdmrklcy

    skdmrklcy Duck and Cover

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    Doesn't Springfield use MIM on the Professional as well?

    I think it is a little surprising on any gun over 2k...

    So what is MIM free that one can buy?
     
  4. Quack

    Quack Rent this space

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    Wilson is MIM free.
     
  5. glock2740

    glock2740 Gun lover.

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    Yep. And frames too.
























    :rofl:
     
  6. glock2740

    glock2740 Gun lover.

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    I ordered my last Wilson with ALL MIM parts. Including the slide, frame and barrel. Sights were all steel though. :whistling:


    :rofl:
     
  7. Cobra64

    Cobra64 Deals in Facts

    Yup, and a Mimber barrel too. :)
     
  8. Z28ricer

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    Oh noes, they're all gonna fall apart now.

    :upeyes:
     
  9. bac1023

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    My Predator has a Kimber ambi safety.


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    However, my Enforcer does not. It was bought at a later date than the Predator. :dunno:


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  10. faawrenchbndr

    faawrenchbndr DirtyThirty fan CLM

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    Wow,....Fusion is looking better everyday,........eh, never mind.
     
  11. CDW4ME

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    The MIM in Kimbers turned me off; I did not have any parts break, but saw plenty of threads on 1911 forum where the thumb safety (especially ambi) broke. I sold 3 Kimbers that were a year old or less. I did not know about the MIM parts when I bought them, education is expensive.

    I can't imagine paying nearly 3,000 or whatever for a Nighthawk and have a Kimber MIM safety on it.

    I've done my research this time.

    At $1,000 and under Colt is very hard to beat; they have about 4 MIM small parts.

    Stepping up:

    Dan Wesson Valor has all tool steel small parts and is a comparative bargain; if you took a $1,000 pistol and replaced the MIM with steel it would easily cost as much or more than the Valor. The Valor was my 1st "high end" 1911 acquisition. This has to be the most "bang for buck" for the quality of components (Ed Brown thumb safety). I've been carrying it in a Blade-Tech UCH.

    Les Baer no MIM here. I just got my Baer Ultimate Tactical Carry (UTC). I have not shot it yet. The lock up is so tight. I enjoy just looking at it. :drool:
    All Les Baer models are made from the same quality components, the difference is model specific features like sights, or ambi safety.

    Last. What's going to be the last one? Wilson CQB or Ed Brown.
    No MIM in either.

    I like it that the Ed Brown pistols (Special Forces, Kobra, Executive) are all made from the same parts, only the finishing touches are different, like scallops or cut checkering. The Wilson CQB doesn't have the same "bullet proof" thumb safety (plus another part) as the CQB Elite. I did not like the philsophy of using "better" parts in one model than another. Ed Brown is next and last in my "high end" 1911 collection.
     
  12. Quack

    Quack Rent this space

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    While not MIM, Brown, Baer and DW use some cast parts
     
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  13. MD357

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    NH is really going downhill from what I've seen lately. Not impressed. For $2900 there should be no MIM on the gun. Don't care if it's "good enough" for some folks, it's a cost cutting measure and there's not excuse for that on a $3000 hand built firearm.
     
  14. bac1023

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    I love both of my NHs, but do agree with this. Springfield shouldn't use MIM on their high end stuff either.
     
  15. Z28ricer

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    BMW engines surviving with MIM parts, manual trans shift forks,

    http://www.pim-international.com/aboutpim/mature

    Spacecraft ?

    http://www.pim-international.com/aboutpim/intro_aero

    Some of you make too much of an issue out of nothing, welcome to technology.

    Sometimes, I know its rare, but things progress, manufacturing methods get better, new alloys are created, and then what you keep repeating becomes outdated.

    Give it time, they'll just print pistols with closer tolerances than your wilsons and nighthawks.

    :rofl:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZboxMsSz5Aw

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7h09dTVkdw&feature=related
     
  16. MD357

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    Actually, one just has to use half of their brain and realize that sectors such as the Aerospace have significant higher quality control standards and testing than let say..... Kimber.....

    It's not a matter of embracing technology. It's a matter of understanding what should be painfully obvious in a apples to oranges comparison.
     
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