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Nice video busting an age old shotgun myth...

Discussion in 'Tactical Shotguns' started by dosei, Apr 22, 2010.

  1. dosei

    dosei

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    Myth:
    "You don't have to aim shotguns, just point them in the general direction and you'll hit the target."

    I hear this line of bs so often...and on the bs meter it ranks right in there with "if you hit them anywhere with (insert any of several calibers with a loyal kool-aid chugging following) they are going to go down and not get back up".

    Today I came across a nice little video on this exact myth...enjoy!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IR5K3DrD4Lk
     
  2. janice6

    janice6 Silver Member

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    I am NOT a shotgun "shooter" so this was very interesting to me.
     


  3. ScrappyDoo

    ScrappyDoo Tacticool brah!

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    Hickok45 needs to come around here more.... Waaaay to many "expert" thread-combatants need to be schooled. Me, I don't know sheeit about sheeit, but I know how to learn from the learned ones.
     
  4. boozer

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    Dang, can you imagine giving an "Al-Queida Terrorist in your bedroom" three rounds of 12 gauge center of mass?

    I'd hate to have to clean that up.

    My HD 870 holds seven rounds, I bet I can get most of them on target.
     
  5. OzzyOsbourne

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    Yes he does.

    And for those who haven't seen his other videos ... let me just say this. You do NOT want to get in a long range handgun match with him!

    Finally, I am soooo jealous of his backyard gun range. Awesome!

    Cheers.
     
  6. GreyEclipse

    GreyEclipse TheGreyEclipse

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    lol, long range and handgun don't go good together...
     
  7. method

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  8. OzzyOsbourne

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    Well, I guess that does depend on your definition of "long range", but if you watch his videos, I think you'll admit he's a pretty fine handgun shooter.
     
  9. dosei

    dosei

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    Ahhh...the proliferation of myths shall never cease...
    This is a tangent from the thread topic, but...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AY5RURFEGd8

    The only real limit on a handgun's range is it's ballistics...it has to have enough velocity when it reaches the target to inflict the desired damage to the target. And that same limit exists on rifles. Most rifles have greater velocities and thus greater range. There are plenty of handguns that are effective out to 200 yards, and in some cases well beyond. Distance shooting with a handgun is delightfully challenging and also good practice (as most things that challenge and push your skills are).
     
  10. Jon_R

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    I shoot USPSA 3-Gun every month and there are plenty of misses with the shotgun. I run the match and on one stage it was 24 shot minimum (to include a texas star) and I only allowed the shooter to carry 25 shells on them. There where plenty of misses recorded on that stage.
     
  11. Batesmotel

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    If it is true that all you need to do is shoot in the general direction and you will hit everything with a shotgun, then why do I miss so many clay birds?:whistling:
     
  12. Z71bill

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    I am NOT saying you do not need to aim a shotgun - that would be dumb -

    But I think I know where this comes from - at least for me.

    I have been shooting a shotgun for a long time - ducks - pheasant - doves - and clay targets - if you shoot long enough you don't really aim - it just comes as a natural reflex -

    I am pretty darn sure I can hit a man size target COM at 15 feet with my Remington 870 buy just pulling up and shooting -

    I can hit a clay target 85-90% of the time at 30 yards while it is flying in the air -moving fast.

    I practice this - point shooting with a handgun also - and at close range can hit the target most of the time - but it is way easier to do it with a long gun - it is just a natural thing.

    The best example I can think of is if you play a sport like baseball - when you first start to play catch in the spring you have to think a little bit about where you are going to throw if you want to hit your target - but after a few weeks of playing catch you can just fire the ball right where you want without giving it any conscious thought.

    :dunno:


    Still think taking the extra nano second to get a well placed shot is a good idea -
     
  13. stgha

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    I LOVE that guy (in a non-homosexual way). I hope to have a setup like his in my later years.....
     
  14. stmcelroy

    stmcelroy Holster Maker

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    Wouldn't it be good if he at least shot some rounds from the hip to dis-spell that myth.
     
  15. rscottk90

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    I wish he had said something about chokes, ect. If you have a full turkey choke in the gun u can get a pattern like his at 60 yrds
     
  16. GlockPride

    GlockPride Glock 23

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    I agree. And how about only one shot with a good examination of the target.