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Newbie Error - Time to Fess Up

Discussion in 'Reloading' started by Kwesi, Oct 12, 2010.

  1. Kwesi

    Kwesi

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    I share this in case I'm the first to do this in hopes it will prevent a problem for another newbie. Anyways I was loading up some Power Pistol 9mm last night. Lately I've been noticing that my weight has been changing by up to .2gr instead of .1. Since I'm loading near the max I've been trying to determine why. Even though I'm tapping the sides of the powder hopper and throwing numerous loads if I stop for a minute the weight changes, at least for the first round or two.

    Last night I started to get some very light drops (3.9 vs 6.1gr) so I decided to empty the powder & clean when to my surprise I heard what sounded like a large clump of powder. Upon closer inspection it was a 115gr FMJ bullet that was hindering the powder drop!

    The night before I was pulling some rounds and apparently did not remove the bullet before the powder went back into the cannister. I purpose to inspect each drop or this could have been a disaster since these loads are for a full auto run.
     
    Last edited: Oct 13, 2010
  2. Colorado4Wheel

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    Wow, glad you found the problem.Thanks for sharing.
     

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  3. Boxerglocker

    Boxerglocker Jacks #1 Fan

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    I had this happen to me once but caught it as I was dumping the powder from the pulled bullets back into the hopper. Learning from that experience, now I would rather take a very insignificant loss and throw the powder into the wind than deal with it happening again. I have akro bin marked to be pulled and just set those rounds aside till a couple of dozen pile up, then pull them all at once. Your looking at $0.02 a bullet in tossed out powder and well worth the cost of not having a mishap that could in essence turn into a tragedy if not caught. IE squib then a live round fired behind it in you guns barrel.
     
  4. fredj338

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    Yep, that would be a new one, even for htis old timer. The powder settling occurs in any powder measure. If you walk away, even for a few minutes, throw 3-4 dummy charges & the start up again.
     
  5. argy1182

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    Thanks for sharing. It's nice to learn things the easy way as opposed to my normal method...
     
  6. GioaJack

    GioaJack Conifer Jack

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    I'm a bit confused... how did that bullet make it past the powder baffle? If it was laying above it there shouldn't have been any effect.


    Jack
     
  7. It was a BPP bullet (baffle penetrating projectile). I think they are illegal.
     
  8. GioaJack

    GioaJack Conifer Jack

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    You been huffing the nitrous oxide again? :dunno:


    Jack
     
  9. thePirho

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    Aren't you supposed to be huffing nitrous oxide after your heart attack?
     
  10. wongman1

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    I guess I should put my baffle in... didnt know what it was until recently. Im assuming the baffle helps consistent throws and keep bullets out. But even after 400 rounds, my LnL is consistantly throwing 4.5g of w231 without the baffle.
     
  11. wongman1

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    I ran 25 rounds thru the press before I realized the decapping pin was adjusted incorrectly. A case got crushed on the resize\decap die (user error - didnt seat the case properly). Broke the pin and put a new one in (thank you Hornady for including an extra one and sending a 2 new ones out to me for free today). Anyway, didnt lock the pin down and the next case pushed it up. 25-30 rounds later, Im wondering why the primer flag is not going down and why theres a used primer in a finished round. I also wondered why the press was running so smooth without any lubed cases (I thought the die needed to break in--oh vey!)

    So now, Im on Midway looking to spend more money on the Hornady Cam Lock Bullet Puller (die style).... Lesson learned and good reason to buy more reloading stuff...
     
  12. No but I'm hopped up on some pharmaceutical grade nitro pills that I traded some old guy in return for a Lee FCD he needed on his new press.
     
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  13. Kwesi

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    I didn't notice it while it was in the hopper but my guess is that it didn't make it past but lodged against it enough to prevent the proper movement of the baffle.

    I keep going over the 120 rounds already loaded - don't think I missed one of the low drops but I would have wagered a $ to a donut that there wasn't a bullet in my hopper.
     
  14. GioaJack

    GioaJack Conifer Jack

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    Just now got off the phone with the hospital for a pre-procedure interview for tomorrow. The lady asked if I was taking nitro pills. Explained to her that they had just been prescribed yesterday but the doctor warned me that I absolutely couldn't be taking Viagra or Levitra while taking the nitro.

    The woman snickered for a minute then asked me... 'should I take it then that you don't plan on using the nitro pills?'

    Very perceptive woman indeed. Wonder if she's single?


    Jack
     
  15. shotgunred

    shotgunred local trouble maker

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    What is a powder baffle?

    I can't seem to find one on my blue press.
     
  16. Colorado4Wheel

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    Basically all it does is let a small amount of powder into a chamber over the powder bar. The chamber always has the same amount of powder in it so it should be more consistent as a result. I found it to make very little difference with my powders. It may have helped with Unique. I only tried my measure with Unique after I installed the baffle. So no before/after testing.

    http://www.uniquetek.com/site/696296/product/T1278

    [​IMG]
     
  17. shotgunred

    shotgunred local trouble maker

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  18. Bob2223

    Bob2223 Jack's buddy!

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    So I guess that leaves you baffled ? :whistling:


    :supergrin:
    "Dillon bashing smiley"

    Bob