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New GTI or ?

Discussion in 'Car Forum' started by berniew, Feb 12, 2006.

  1. berniew

    berniew Liberty

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    Looking at buying another vehicle right now. If you were looking at a car like the GTi (price and general spec) would you buy it or something else?

    Under $25 new

    I want decent handling and acceleration

    Automatic

    Hatch is preferred
     
  2. OUSooner

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    That looks like an awesome car! I just read my new issue of car and driver and the Gti beat the new Honda Civic Si in a head to head comparo.
     


  3. bac1023

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    I saw that test as well. The GTI looks great. However, I don't think I'd pass up Honda's proven longevity and reliability. Although its been a while since I have owned a Volkswagen, my experiences are that reliability is nowhere near Honda's.
     
  4. berniew

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    No automagic or hatch in a new si...
     
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  6. spoonhatchcrap

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    200 hp is actually pretty pathetic considering the displacement plus boost.
     
  7. epsylum

    epsylum Boolit Hoze

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    Well the torque isn't.

    The 1.8T and 2.0T engines are designed for minimal turbo lag, so the turbo isn't very big. It just makes the 4 banger feel like a 6 in a straight line, but handle and get gas milage like a 4.

    WIth a little cash they can make some pretty impressive power, at least the 1.8 can. The 2.0T has a pretty high compression ratio for a turbo enigne. The only fix for that is new pistons and that isn't very cheap or easy.
     
  8. gixxer11

    gixxer11 bbrrraaapppppp!

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    @ least a VW block will take boost;)
     
  9. bac1023

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    I like a good old manuel shift. Every car I have owned had one.
     
  10. spoonhatchcrap

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    honda b series blocks can handle more than enough boost for a nasty street car. only extreme aplications will require a resleeve of the block. the real problem lies in the tuning of air/fuel ratios and timing. and some people just arent very good at this.


    on a side note european cars are considerably more expensive and dont offer as much bang for the buck in stock form. dont take this as my way of saying they are not capable cars. but the gamut of modifications for these cars are effective yet rather expensive compared to domestic and japanese sport compacts. im a honda guy myself and as much as i hate to say it, the srt-4 is by far the best bang for the buck in the new car segment today.
     
  11. gixxer11

    gixxer11 bbrrraaapppppp!

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    anyhow, I don't know if he has any intentions on modifying the engine on a new car w/warranty. I'd still go with the VW. They look great,IMO, drive very nice, and have some cool features. Plus the resale is quite good. Have you test driven one yet?
     
  12. Nelybarg

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    this might push your 25K budget..

    http://www.subaru.com/shop/model_consideration.jsp?model=IMPREZA

    I had a 2002 WRX wagon that rocked. only reason i got rid of it was the wife hated it and it was kinda small for the family car. boy i miss that car. mine was an auto because thats all i could find. while i prefer a manual, this one wasnt bad.

    plus side on the subie, its AWD. depending on your location, that might make a big difference in the winter.
     
  13. berniew

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    I saw something about this but didn't realize a wagon was available...

    hmmmmm

     
  15. 45acp4me

    45acp4me Pissed puppet

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    Given what VW has become in the quality department, I'd never buy one. It's too bad as they are fun cars to drive.
     
  16. c5367

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    I test drove a TT with DSG. Granted it was a typical 4 dealer test drive, but I can't say I was impressed. But then again I despise automatics, and would never buy one.
     
  17. bac1023

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    +1
     
  18. berniew

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    I have DSG in my Beetle TDI, and I test drove the GTI with DSG. They didn't seem the same to me. I like driving MT but I don't lose any sleep if I can't.

    PS I tell the car salesman to hold on....
     
  19. berniew

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    So what would you recommend in hatch or wagon in that price range?