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New Gallup poll ... wtf America?

Discussion in 'The Okie Corral' started by Grabbrass, Jan 23, 2013.

  1. Grabbrass

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    *ASH* in hell everyone loves popcorn

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    first what was the demographic ??? thats the key . what states did these votes come from .

    ahh i clicked link NEW JERZEEE , NO WONDER LOL
     
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  3. Grabbrass

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    No. Methods are described at the bottom of the page. Persons polled from all 50 states plus D.C., same as any other poll they do.



    Edit: I should also add, there are at least a couple questions on there in which I agree with the majority (and, I guess, the President). For example, 30 million for schools to develop emergency response plans? Sure. 30 million is chump change. And increase penalties for straw purchases? Absolutely. And Eric Holder and the acting BATFE chief (at the time of F&F) should be the first arrested.
     
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    If this isn't some outlier, there has been a MAJOR shift in public perception in the last couple weeks. The other thing is that they say 92% of Republicans support background checks on all gun sales and 49% of republicans support a stronger assault weapons ban.

    These numbers are hard to believe.


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  5. jame

    jame I don't even know....what I'm doing here....

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    This is not 1994, fellas. We are still a long way from home free.

    We need to keep fighting, in a nice way. Prove yourself a good example of a gun owner. Take a co-worker to the range. Talk your brother (or sister) into joining the NRA. Spread the word.
     
  6. jrd22

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    jame- I agree, it's a different world than it was in '94. I'm really surprised at the general "don't worry, they can't do anything" attitude here on GT. Based on what happened in the Pres. election and now the Pres. making "gun control" a major priority anyone that isn't extremely worried about new Fed. and State regulations has got their head stuck way down in the sand.
     
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    itisbruno Devious Member CLM

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    We must be vocal, active, and put our money where our mouth is.
     
  8. Mad Ryan

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    Some of that makes sense. Obviously banning anything is a waste of time but I'm all for fixing the mental health system regardless of the perceived cost.
     
  9. Berto

    Berto woo woo

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    Consider also how polls are typically written to favor a forgone conclusion;

    Do you favor

    1) all anti gun legislation
    2) most gun legislation
    3) some gun legislation
    4) a tiny bit of gun legislation
    5) only a teensy tiny bit gun legislation
    6) No gun legislation

    If 60% answered anything but #6, it's a win for gun control.
     
  10. gommer

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    Bill Clinton said it best, as he was calling us all losers (basically), and that's that it doesn't matter what is popular or what these polls say.

    It matters who votes.

    We vote.

    I hear conservatives in shock all the time about how Obama got elected again. He has the magic mix that gets liberals to do something they normally never do, get off their rears and go to the polls.

    Conservatives are so motivated that it's extremely unlikely that any democratic candidate will win in 2016. It would take another 'God' figure that people worshiped to work the magic again.

    That is unless, perhaps, liberals have actually learned that they can vote themselves a raise. Which, were that the case, it could be the end all. I recall several founders noting that should that day come it would be our Achile's Heel.

    What do I know.. damn insomnia... freaking 'nother night not sleeping. Stupid GT.. :yawn:
     
  11. Andy W

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    As a political science major I know that if a poll is properly designed, there should be no answers "written to favor a forgone concluson." Gallup is also generally pretty well respected as an accurate polling firm. However, these answers are alarming and possibly suspect.
     
  12. hotpig

    hotpig IAFF Local 4766 CLM

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    I have only had two customers at my shop since Sandy Hook that oppose AWB Hi Cap ban and other common sense measures. Most are NRA Members and own more than one shotgun.

    They do not believe we have any business owning semi auto rifle and pistols. These are the average gun owners in America. Guys that hang out in gun forums are the minority. The gun nuts.

    I think many gun owners are way under reacting right now. Relying on the Republicans who are just hanging on to their seats by their finger nails to stop popular opinion of gun control is really false hope. They probably stand a better chance of re election if they only put up token Resistance.

    We are not coming out of this unscathed. This is nothing like 94 because the gun grabbers have power. The public supports them heck, even many gun owners support them.

    Do not wake up like you did the day after the Presidential elections and say I did not see it coming. The polls are warning us to do more.
     
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    Don't dig your head in the sand fellas.

    I hope my great state of NY is a wake up call to all of you not to give an inch.

    We went from high-caps to 10-rounders to 7-rounders. What's next? 0-rounders?

    Our pre-ban high-caps are now also banned and have to be turned in, revoking the prior grandfather clause, taking away our existing property.

    Remember the Alamo!
    Now it is Remember NY!

    The public is more anti-gun than ever now.

    We need you and about 45 million of your friends to join the NRA or some similar pro-gun organization soon!

    That poll reached more people than you did, and they did it methodically. Believe it, the anti-gun opinion and votes are out there. Gun owners need to organize and educate and lobby fast.

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    hotpig IAFF Local 4766 CLM

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    If you watch this video you will see some anti gun nuts showing a power point. In the power point they show a Grizzly Bear. The speaker goes on to say this is what the NRA thinks they are. The next slide shows a Chihuahua and the Speakers says this is what the NRA really is then goes on to show the Nazi flag.

    http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1467008

    The speaker is right. Only 4 million give or take members is bad enough. Take out the ones that actually are siding with the gun grabbers it does not look good for us.

    Obama said 90% of the NRA members polled support his agenda. I had seen other polls that put it closer to 70%. My local news paper poll shows just the opposite close to 70% of those who responded to the poll oppose more gun control other than back ground checks.

    We can not afford people sitting on the side line saying Congress will save us. We have one shot and if it fails it is a life sentence.
     
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  15. Peace Warrior

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    Grabbrass,

    Literally within hours of the Sandy Hook event, and since then we've had over a month of the mass media insisting that the entire country wants stricter gun control, how do you think the sheeple masses would poll? The media's been insisting for over a month that if someone is not for some kind or type of reasonable gun control measures, then that someone is part of the "gun owning, bible clinging, unreasonable absolutists' crowd." Sheeple do not like to labeled as unreasonable, which falls under cultural marxism's (i.e., politically correct) tenet/doctrine of intolerance, and the brainwashed sheeple also dreadfully fear to be labeled as part of the "unpopular herd/crowd."

    You knew of course that 47% would be for tighter restrictions and support the anti-Liberty, anti-law abiding gun owners regardless of who owned the media outlets; however, what the media's nonstop aggrandizing has been able to do is pull the fence sitters to the people control side of the issue with their non-stop, false reporting of what the "majority" of Americans think is reasonable.

    Within hours of the Sandy Hook event, how did reporters, politicians, or the POTUS already know what the majority of Americans wanted because of what happened at Sandy Hook?!? They lied to the American people so as to further their agenda.

    They (i.e., the misinformation media outlets) are good great at this kind of thing and the agenda of the socialists has been able to come home and roost due to the easily manipulated two party political system here in America.
     
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  16. IndyGunFreak

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    It will be too late by the time you do any of that.
     
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    What is your suggestion?

    I say join up, get others to join up, and fight politically and socially, and protect the 2nd Ammendment, and freedom :)

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    Can anybody name a school shooting where any of those proposals would have possibly affected to anything that happened?
     
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    Bren NRA Life Member

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    I don't have a suggestion - it was too late last November, when election day passed with Republicans and libertarians staying home or voting third party because Romney wasn't cool enoiugh for them.

    That was your last chance to prevent this, but even alleged gun owners on this forum were saying how "Obama doesn't want your guns" and "they have to vote their conscience, even if it helps Obama win" and the myth that "Romney is a gun grabber too." Every one of them is responsible for what is happening now.
     
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