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New G17 Gen4 range report

Discussion in 'General Glocking' started by Squeeze, Mar 13, 2012.

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  1. Squeeze

    Squeeze

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    I picked up a NIB G17 Gen4(blue label), with a fired on date
    of 6/28/2011. The date gave me pause. I was hoping for
    one that had the latest anti-hysteria parts. My life is
    nuts at the moment, but I did manage to get 50 rounds off
    on my range last night. I set the pistol up for failure by
    shooting some extra soft shooting 9mm ammo I have
    developed for my wife's M&P 9c. The same ammo cycles
    reliably in my Browning BDM, but it truely is "bunny fart"
    ammo. If the Glock was going to choke, it would do so
    quickly on this stuff.

    It ran the 50 rounds through it like a champ. Extraction
    was decent, as all but 2 pieces of brass were found in
    a 3' circle at my 4 o'clock, about 4' away. Two
    pieces of brass were under the pistol, but I had one
    round with a report so low that I cleared the pistol,
    and checked that the bullet had cleared the barrel.
    Truly "bunny fart" ammo. And here I was all geared
    up to take brass to the eyes and head...It didn't happen.
    The pistol shows excellent accuracy, and as soon as I
    get a 4.5 connector, and polish a few mating surfaces,
    I am sure the pistol and I will be more consistent.
    I am not a big fan of 9mms for PD, but for competitive
    shooting, I can see we will become friends. Now I
    have 4 Glocks, and every one of them have lived up
    to expectations.

    I do have one question for GT folks. Does anyone know
    where I can pick up a Glock OEM 4.5 Connector for a
    decent price? $25 at Glockmeister seems out of line to me.
    Also I need more G17 mags...Anyone have a favorite
    mag store?

    Squeeze
     
  2. Beanie-Bean

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    Congrats on the new G17! I'm getting ready to develop some Berry's 124 gr. RN loads for my 9X19 lineup. Just trying to get the last of my 115 gr. downrange, as I just prefer the 124 and 147 loads a lot more, that's all.

    Regarding the "." connector, you can order some from glockparts.com--Dave has been great to work with, and I ordered a handful for my Glocks before I took the armorer class. Their price will beat the other place you listed, too. Because they were on backorder for so long, I also ordered some from Glock, too. Haven't received those yet, though.

    I pick up magazines new at GT Distributors (LE shop) here in the Austin area for about $21.95 for any size, except for the +2 versions, which cost about $10-11 more.

    Enjoy your new G17! I just recently picked up one, but haven't got a chance to put anything through it yet. I may try to sneak out to do that when I get back, though!

    Here's mine:
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  3. Squeeze

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    Beanie-Bean,

    I load the Berry's 124 gr. Round Nose Hollow Base thick
    plated bullets. Nice consistent bullet, that you can drive to
    max loads for the 9x19. IIRC these bullets are double
    struck. At any rate, very nice bullets, and for the couple
    of bucks more per thousand, I highly recommend the "thick
    plated" versions. I think Powder Valley usually has them in
    stock.

    As for the connector, I looked at Glockparts, but they were
    out of stock. I appears to be prevalent at on-line Glock
    parts stores...Guess I just need to get in the back order
    line.

    Squeeze
     
  4. ithaca_deerslayer

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    Squeeze, glad to hear about your G4 17.

    One question, why the one round mouse fart? Who loads your ammo (/sarcasm).
    :)

    I don't reload, so I'm just ribbing you about it.
     
  5. Beanie-Bean

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    Thanks, Squeeze.

    I've got a running list of things to get from Powder Valley once the supplies start getting thin. Good to hear about the Berry's stuff--I normally load jacketed .45 and 10mm, so this will be my first plated stuff. 9mm Luger has just been a toss up for me to load, because the pricing is really good here, and I'd rather not have to setup the press just for that.

    Got some fresh Starline brass for the new loads, and if they work out OK, I've got a lot of once-fired and range brass that'll be ready to go for a big batch.

    I'll keep an eye out for the thick-plated flavor, but I don't know that I'll be trying to launch them at max load/velocity. I'll chrono these loads to see which ones will run best from all of them, so I can just have one recipe for that particular bullet.
     
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    Squeeze...I emailed you about a minus connector if your interested.
     
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    I load my ammo, but there is a story about this. My
    brother, a fellow hand loader passed away unexpectedly a
    few years ago, and I got his powder locker. There was a
    1999 dated jug of Unique, and Herco, in the batch. It sat
    around for a couple of years, since I don't typically use
    either of them. One cold winter night I decided to research
    some light load data for these two powders, and load it
    into pistol ammo. I tested a few rounds, and everything
    looked good. Accuracy and reliable cycling were achieved.
    So I loaded up the powders in to 9mmx19, 40 S&W, and
    45 ACP. Since all of the charges are thrown from a decent
    powder measure and checked with a scale calibrated to
    +/- .02 grains, I am thinking the charge weights are good.
    So I have to assume the burn rates of the powder are
    changing. So I will just have to shoot the few hundred
    rounds I have up quickly...Of course taking care for a squibs. :supergrin:

    As for "bunny fart" ammo, my wife gets kind of whiny when
    I hand her box of +p SD ammo for practice. So I load for
    her, but now if it runs well in this Glock, it will get shot at
    some GSSF matches...Not the old powder "bunny fart"
    loads, but my standard powder(Universal) "bunny fart"
    loads will go to matches.

    Squeeze
     
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    My preferred brass. My 10mm lives on Starline, and all various
    cartridges of my SD loads, are loaded into Starline.

    As for the "thick plate" I don't run mine hot. The bullets
    just seem to be higher quality, and if you get a little
    heavy on the crimp, you don't see copper rolling up.

    Best of luck on the 9mm loads. Even at bargain factory
    ammo prices, which I believe are quickly going to dry up,
    I can load my ammo for about 50-70% of new. Much
    bigger saving when loading SD ammo. Of course my brass
    is free. I teach at a county public range, used by LE, and
    they can be too busy to police up their brass. :supergrin: I do
    my public duty, and police up their empties.

    Squeeze
     
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    Starline is my baseline brass for new loads--new projectiles, new powders, new primers. After I get a good formula that cycles the guns properly, I start testing for accuracy, after which I'll have some good data for my lineup.

    Regarding crimp, I do just enough to get the bell out, which isn't really much anyway. Good to know about the thick-plate for that stuff. Haven't had any experience w/plated yet, so this will be my first run.

    Yeah, I really have to be in the mood to load up some 9mm. I know how to cook, but don't eat at home all the time, you know? Yeah, I agree with you on the pricing as of late--it's gone up to the point where I am getting excited looking for primer and powder deals at Cabela's to avoid hazmat :) Regarding SD ammo, I just load up at the LE distributor here--their pricing is what helps keep me off the reloading bench!

    Lastly, I'm happy for you and jealous of your unlimited supply of good brass. Good for you man, and thank you for doing your part to help out the public!
     
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    Congrats on the G17.
     
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    Congrats on your G17!:cool:
     
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    First, thanks to all for the best wishes. I have never been
    a big 9mm fan, but I can now understand why many are
    fans of the G17.

    Thanks to B-B for the GTDist. recommendation on the
    mags. I ordered 4 yesterday AM, and I have a UPS
    tracking # this morning. Prices were excellent, and
    shipping was reasonable. And on the 4.5 connector("-")
    silly me, in a OCD fit in the past year, I ordered an extra "-"
    connector, when I needed one, for my G30SF. Some
    repressed memory fired, and I looked in the Glock part pile
    in my shop, and sure enough a "-" connector was in the
    pile. The trigger improvement surgery will happen tonight.
    There will be brass flying on the range tonight. :supergrin:
    I have to celebrate 75 degrees in WI in March, and
    warming up a G17 seems appropriate.

    Squeeze
     
  13. michael_b

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    Congrats on the Gen4 17. I have a pink/red label and love it.

    I do take one or two to the head for every 50 rounds or so but otherwise I'm quite pleased with it.


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    Last year I bought a total of 5 Glocks, shot them in IDPA reasonably well, but then decided to sell them for other brands. But for some reason, I had the urge to get another this week, so I picked up a new Gen 4 17 yesterday. There are 2 changes I noticed right away from my first Gen 4 17, the recoil spring (042) and the ejector, which has kind of a twist on it now.

    Range report: 200 rounds American Eagle 124gr, 100%, no failures, and no brass in face. Next was 100 rounds S&B 115 gr, no brass in face. Both brands fed and cycled 100%. I had one light strike on the primer of an S&B round, which fired the second time.

    Thanks Glock, good job! I'm back!


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  15. SCSU74

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    since you have a blue label im guessing you are a LEO? If so, register a LEO account with Brownell's, i order the majority of my glock parts through them. Their LEO price for the part you are looking for is $5.88, though currently out of stock. Here is a link:
    http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=22962/Product/Connector-5-lb-

    Another good place to look for OEM parts in lone wolf, have always had good luck with them. The same part is in stock with them for $4.88. Link here:
    https://www.lonewolfdist.com/Detail.aspx?PROD=472&CAT=197

    I understand its not the 4.5 (-) connector you asked about, but those are all going to be in the $20 range and the new 5 lb. connector listed above may actually give you better results in your Gen 4. Here is an article comparing the differences:

    http://militarytimes.com/blogs/gear...oduces-the-connector-5-for-gen4-pistols/#more

    As far as mags go, i order from DSG arms, they have great prices ($21) and are local so i can run down and pick them up. They also carry the +2 9mm/40 ext for $9. Hope this helps you out.
     
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