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new 45 powder

Discussion in 'Reloading' started by billy b, Feb 14, 2012.

  1. billy b

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    i looking for a new 45 target powder. i have a lot of powder but want to try something different (45acp). thinking of titegroup, 231, wst, aa5. to those that load 45 what do you think.
     
  2. Citroen

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    I spoke with one of the techs at AA and was told that # 2 is a better powder for .45 ACP than # 5. Been using it ever since and like it a lot.

    Fine grain, meters well - down side is that a decent load fills less than half the case length so a double charge is possible. I "peak" into each round as I turn the press to the seating die to ensure the powder is just below half and I scale about every 10th one.

    So far, excellent results.
    John
    Charlotte, NC
     


  3. Rumbler_G20

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    I've used all those powders in .45ACP. For target use I'm inclined to recommend Tightgroup for 230 gr bullets because of the low charge weight required. I liked the WST because it seemed to be a softer shooting powder (that still delivered the requisite velocity), but it required almost a full grain more than Tightgroup to deliver that same velocity.

    The .45ACP I load for public training, is loaded with AA5. Lowish charge weight, big muzzle flash, sharp recoil, imitates hotter self defense ammo better.

    WW231, that is just pretty good powder all 'round for the .45ACP generally speaking. You can use it under virtually all the available bullet weights and it will perform consistently in them. But it's not very clean, not very soft shooting, makes up in smoke what it lacks in muzzle flash (which is still significant).

    NONE of these powders are loaded in my defensive ammunition, just too much muzzle flash. I use Hodgden Clays for that. . . . and that is NOT a recommendation that anyone else do that. Clays has a very narrow charge weight band it can be loaded to "safely" in the .45ACP. This is one of the very few powders I've met over the years where .1 gr can make a really significant difference in pressure (!!).


    Of course; standard disclaimers apply. This is all based on MY guns - your experience may vary drastically.
     
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  4. ColoCG

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    Another vote for WST, works great, low recoil,meters great,clean burning. Has a lot of the things I usually don't care about.:supergrin:
     
  5. rickrope

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    I've been using WST for about 12 years everytime I change to something new I end up go back to WST in a hurry. :dunno:
     
  6. Glockaholic2

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    Don't count out Alliant Unique. I just tried it out and it shot well and clean. I've used 231 and Titegroup as well. Both were good.
     
  7. Fwdftw

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    I liked win231 5.6 grain over a 200 lswc at 1.255 oal

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  8. bowhunter1

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    My goto load 4.8gr of WST and 200gr LSWC

    Clean, Low smoke with lead, low recoil, works with standard springs
     
  9. fredj338

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    Wow, an entire grain of powder!:shocked: So you save like 1/10 of a penny per round! For that you get a powder that burns hotter & occpies 1/3 less space inside the large case.:whistling: WST, hands down best 45acp powder I have ever tried & that includes all that you mentioned & then some, for target to full power loads. The only thing it won't do is +P loads. BTW, Clays won't even hit factory vel safely so purely minor loads only.
     
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  10. njl

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    Clays is nice, but if you need to worry about PF or want less smoke with FMJ or non-jacketed bullets, you're better off with WST. It's got a much broader load range and can get you more velocity than Clays [safely] can.
     
  11. Unique. It ain't just for Granpa anymore.
     
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  12. OrGlocker

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    I like W231. I use it in 45ACP, 38 Spl & 40 S&W.
     
  13. snowwdog

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    universal clays, i love it. Works wonderful with my 200 grain berrys. Im not building crotch rockets, im having fun at the range. Downside if you can call it that is low case volume.
     
  14. njl

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    I tried Universal in my first .45acp reloads. I found the starting load to be crazy low velocity, and the recoil got bad with increasing charge weight faster than the velocity picked up. Clays and WST do much better.
     
  15. cliffb

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    Another WST vote for all the reasons already listed.
     
  16. gforester

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    I had the same experience with Universal in my 45acp loads. I did find it to be an excellent powder for my 9mm loads.
     
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  17. SigFTW

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    I use TG and Bullseye, liked BE over TG. I just picked up some WST and will see if it's the cat's meow. :supergrin: